RTA 11TL's driver listings

EndersShadow
EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
edited February 2013 in Vintage Speakers
So I know that the 11TL's have the SL300 stock tweeter, as well as 2 6510 6 1/2 drivers (which you can get replacements for from Polk) but I was wondering if anyone knew the driver numbers for each of the 8" passive woofers. Also are the current Polk 6510's as good as the originals?

I am going to try and snag a couple extras of all the drivers sans tweets as these babies wont be going anywhere anytime soon and I want to make sure I have some spares lying around eventually.

Also if anyone knows the going rate for the 6510's, each 8" woofer that would be great to know for reference, so I can be on the lookout for deals. Also IIRC the RDO's I can use are the 1944's correct?
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,443
    edited February 2013
    Dan,
    The 6510 are all over the place I have bought some at 25.00 to 45.00 on ebay and seen some sell for 60.00.
    the RDO-198 are your huckleberries....
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Dan,
    The 6510 are all over the place I have bought some at 25.00 to 45.00 on ebay and seen some sell for 60.00.
    the RDO-198 are your huckleberries....

    Ok. Besides saving on the used ones, any reason to not just get the replacements directly from Polk?

    So the 198's are the SL3000 replacements? I thought for some reason it was the 194's :mrgreen:. Good thing I didnt purchase some already lol....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,443
    edited February 2013
    6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other...

    I have heard new 6501's and old 6501's my ears could not tell a difference.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other...

    I have heard new 6501's and old 6501's my ears could not tell a difference.

    You mean 6510's not 6501's right :wink:. Or at least thats what the manual lists them as.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,443
    edited February 2013
    nope I meant 6501's. I have no 6510's that are new all mine are older. My SDA1 signatures have a 6501 as dimensional drivers. I'm just stating like others have that the only difference is visual.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    Ahh thanks for the clarification
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited February 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Ok. Besides saving on the used ones, any reason to not just get the replacements directly from Polk?

    So the 198's are the SL3000 replacements? I thought for some reason it was the 194's :mrgreen:. Good thing I didnt purchase some already lol....

    Hold the phone...My 11t had sl2000 and they were as far as I know bone stock.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    edited February 2013
    11T vs 11TLs I am assuming that is the difference you are seeing.

    Enders, 198s are definitely your tweeter target.
    I was debating doing the same with extra drivers. May have to wait until after I move some of this extraneous audio gear I have laying around before I can do that.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2013
    my 11T's are SW80 and SW81 for the passives. i have scoured google and can't find a listing to be sure...

    oh wait... pull a driver. should be written in white grease pencil on the back. all of mine have hand written part numbers...

    i believe the TL crossover is also different, besides the tweeter.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?38755-POLK-AUDIO-Speaker-Wiring-Schematics-amp-More-ALL-MODELS-except-SDA
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited February 2013
    My bad. I missed the tl part...Mine are 11t.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    11T vs 11TLs I am assuming that is the difference you are seeing.

    Enders, 198s are definitely your tweeter target.
    I was debating doing the same with extra drivers. May have to wait until after I move some of this extraneous audio gear I have laying around before I can do that.

    Yeah I want to start stocking up, figure enough to totally redo em all is the most I want :smile:. Will take me some time to get there though :biggrin:

    The 8" driver is the most important as Polk doesn't make a replacement for them. So those are what my first goal is.
    11tsteve wrote: »
    my 11T's are SW80 and SW81 for the passives. i have scoured google and can't find a listing to be sure...

    oh wait... pull a driver. should be written in white grease pencil on the back. all of mine have hand written part numbers...

    i believe the TL crossover is also different, besides the tweeter.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?38755-POLK-AUDIO-Speaker-Wiring-Schematics-amp-More-ALL-MODELS-except-SDA

    Yeah it's a diff crossover than the T. I will pull the drivers tonight (I wasn't planning on being home today so I thought I would ask instead :smile:
    SDA1C wrote: »
    My bad. I missed the tl part...Mine are 11t.

    Yup I got the TLs and am loving em!
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  • Misxo
    Misxo Posts: 6
    edited February 2013
    Good luck on hunting down some SW-81's. Been down one myself for quite awhile and these puppies don't seem to turn up on ebay all that often. The 80's you can probably collect fairly quickly though.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2013
    I bought two if each a while back but not sure what I have left. I'll look when I get home tonight.
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2013
    i do have an extra sw-81 for sure, maybe others.....
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited February 2013
    I have one SW80 and one SW81 both are brand new..


    Throw me a bone and they will ship to a new owner..
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited February 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have one SW80 and one SW81 both are brand new..


    Throw me a bone and they will ship to a new owner..


    This is just a thought as I do not own this model or any speaker with these passives. but it is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong so as not to mislead anyone) that the only difference in these two passives is the weight of the diaphragm for tuning purposes. anyone who has both should be able to weigh them on a gram scale to see the difference and if push comes to shove adjust the weight of the one that is available to match the one they need. This understandably would be a last ditch effort but should work if nothing else is available. If several people have these and could do this, then compare the weights and list here for future reference it may help someone down the road as these get even harder to get parts for than they are now.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


    Monitor 5Jr, Monitor 5, RTA12, RTA 15TL, SDA 2A, 1c, SRS 2, 1.2TL, CRS, Atrium.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have one SW80 and one SW81 both are brand new..


    Throw me a bone and they will ship to a new owner..

    Shoot me a PM with what your looking for if someone else hasn't already jumped on this...
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited February 2013
    Mr. Bubbles wrote: »
    This is just a thought as I do not own this model or any speaker with these passives. but it is my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong so as not to mislead anyone) that the only difference in these two passives is the weight of the diaphragm for tuning purposes. anyone who has both should be able to weigh them on a gram scale to see the difference and if push comes to shove adjust the weight of the one that is available to match the one they need. This understandably would be a last ditch effort but should work if nothing else is available. If several people have these and could do this, then compare the weights and list here for future reference it may help someone down the road as these get even harder to get parts for than they are now.

    If you look at the pictures of the 11t or 11tl's you notice that the actual drivers are not the same in shape. So it's not just weight on the speakers that is different in this case.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2013
    i have one of each as well since we possibly have two people in need. pm me if so desired.
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited February 2013
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    If you look at the pictures of the 11t or 11tl's you notice that the actual drivers are not the same in shape. So it's not just weight on the speakers that is different in this case.

    Thanks, I know there are different versions of the RTA11 but was thinking that one of the versions(maybe more) had 2 passives that are tuned to different frequencies and thought that these 2 (in the same cabinet) were basically the same other than tuning; both 8 inch round passives but tuned to different frequencies. Don't remember where I read that though. Thanks again, I don't want to confuse anyone else.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


    Monitor 5Jr, Monitor 5, RTA12, RTA 15TL, SDA 2A, 1c, SRS 2, 1.2TL, CRS, Atrium.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited February 2013
    Mr. Bubbles wrote: »
    Thanks, I know there are different versions of the RTA11 but was thinking that one of the versions(maybe more) had 2 passives that are tuned to different frequencies and thought that these 2 (in the same cabinet) were basically the same other than tuning; both 8 inch round passives but tuned to different frequencies. Don't remember where I read that though. Thanks again, I don't want to confuse anyone else.
    in essence, you are correct if i read you right. both ARE, in fact, 8" PRs. and they are tuned differently due to their position in the cab... but i think what Enders might be getting at is the center weight, used for tuning, are of different shapes and will affect the sound wave created. therefore, simply adding weight may not create the correct frequencies.
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
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  • Misxo
    Misxo Posts: 6
    edited February 2013
    Well it appears I cant send PM's until a post count of 10. I tried sending out a couple emails but not sure if folks recieved them. Either way if any of you folks still do have an extra SW-81 that you wouldnt mind parting with would ya please send a message out my way? Much appreciation in advance.
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