Ready to spike my 2B's...a question though

muncybob
muncybob Posts: 3,042
edited February 2013 in Vintage Speakers
I've had the spikes for about a month and finally got around to installing them today. Drilled all the holes to the depth of the "nut inserts". I notice that if the thread is installed to the point that it bottoms out in the hole there will be about a 1/2" gap between the top of the spike itself and the cabinet. Should I drill the holes an additional 1/2" or so such that the thread goes into the cabinet further and the spikes will then be closer to the bottom of the speaker? There is enough room to do this without actually going through the base. It also appear the inserts will take a few fairly firm whacks to push them into the cabinet. I'm a little concerned about hitting them that hard. Yes, I'm using the size drill bit that the web site(Meniscus) says to use.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,559
    edited February 2013
    You need to drive the inserts further into the cabinet. A 1/2 gap is too much.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited February 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    You need to drive the inserts further into the cabinet. A 1/2 gap is too much.

    +1000...the inserts should be all the way into the cab. You can always back out a spike or two a bit to level if needed.
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2013
    Isn't that what he's saying? The thread insert, fully installed, provides a half-inch gap to the spike.

    I'd cut the threads of the spike shorter, but that's me. I would NOT continue drilling into the cabinet to make a "pocket" for the excess threads on the spike.
  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited February 2013
    Schurkey wrote: »
    Isn't that what he's saying? The thread insert, fully installed, provides a half-inch gap to the spike.

    I'd cut the threads of the spike shorter, but that's me. I would NOT continue drilling into the cabinet to make a "pocket" for the excess threads on the spike.

    Are you saying that the threads on the spikes themselves are longer than the inserts?
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,559
    edited February 2013
    Isn't that what he's saying? The thread insert, fully installed, provides a half-inch gap to the spike.

    Yeah, I think you are right. Doh!

    I was focused on this statement....
    It also appear the inserts will take a few fairly firm whacks to push them into the cabinet. I'm a little concerned about hitting them that hard.

    Whack away.
    Should I drill the holes an additional 1/2" or so such that the thread goes into the cabinet further and the spikes will then be closer to the bottom of the speaker?

    muncybob, that's exactly what I have done.
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  • teekay0007
    teekay0007 Posts: 2,289
    edited February 2013
    Yes, DEFINITELY drill a little deeper and screw in the threads all the way up until the top of the spikes are in contact with the inserts. That will add a great deal of stability. If necessary, to level the speakers, you can then back out some of the spike threads a little bit.

    This was a very worthwhile mod for my SDA-2BTLs.

    Good luck.
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,042
    edited February 2013
    Schurkey wrote: »
    I would NOT continue drilling into the cabinet to make a "pocket" for the excess threads on the spike.

    Any particular reason not to? Appears there is still close to another 1/2" of cabinet to spare. Cutting the inserts is preferable I guess as long as I can still get them to thread into the nuts. It's got me wondering why they went with such long inserts to begin with.
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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2013
    Thread a nut onto the stud, cut the stud, thread the nut back off to straighten the threads at the cut.

    Not as perfect as using a die, but it should work. Maybe buff the threads at the cut on a wire wheel afterward. Not difficult.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,559
    edited February 2013
    muncybob wrote: »
    Any particular reason not to? Appears there is still close to another 1/2" of cabinet to spare. Cutting the inserts is preferable I guess as long as I can still get them to thread into the nuts. It's got me wondering why they went with such long inserts to begin with.

    This thread is confusing to say the least.

    Are the inserts fully seated or not? If not, seat them all the way.
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited February 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    This thread is confusing to say the least.
    Are the inserts fully seated or not? If not, seat them all the way.

    This is where "a picture is worth a thousand words" quote comes in mind.
    I am also interested on spiking 2B's but no idea what this issue is about.

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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,042
    edited February 2013
    Schurkey wrote: »
    Thread a nut onto the stud, cut the stud, thread the nut back off to straighten the threads at the cut.

    Not as perfect as using a die, but it should work. Maybe buff the threads at the cut on a wire wheel afterward. Not difficult.

    Sounds like a plan. If I screw it up I can always get other studs and try again.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,042
    edited February 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    This thread is confusing to say the least.

    Are the inserts fully seated or not? If not, seat them all the way.

    I guess it was created when I called the threads(studs) "inserts"....sorry 'bout that.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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