LSI 15 VS SDA 1C's.....
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Just for what it is worth...
When I quote modifications for SDA it involves the following -
Tweeter Network - Clarity Cap ESA, Mundorf Mox
Woofer/SDA - Clarity Cap SA/PX
GIMPOD boards
Upgraded NL2 connection, NL2 15 FT RONDO 13 awg x 2 SDA connection
Upgraded binding post
Just the binding post, NL2, 15 ft RONDO cable is $120.00
GIMPOD $100.00
$300??
Maybe if you are stacking parts like a mountain on a stock board and not touching the terminal cup- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Here is what I have told Naturallight before -
Total - $592.60 (This includes ALL of the above modifications - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED)
Total - $512.60 (Without Upgraded Binding Post/SDA Wire, but includes GIMPOD boards) - Second Recommended Option
Total - $492.60 (Without GIMPOD boards)
Total - $415.00 (Without GIMPOD boards or Upraded Binding Post/SDA Wire - mind you cant even buy a roll of solder, a soldering iron, a glue gun or hot glue + parts for that- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I would not say I am "defending" anything - I just wanted to clear up I do not over charge anything.
The last bit about soldering irons and so forth was not in the quote, FWIW. Just here.
When I started doing this my goal was to perform modifications at a price everyone could afford, kind of the Polk motto.
So far it has worked!
Thanks!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
anonymouse wrote: »You should not feel the need to defend your pricing. If you do quality work, and rumor has it you do, it comes at a price.
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Peppy... you need to PM me some good news... :-P- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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naturallight wrote: »Sometimes F1..i just give up on your statements. When Vr3 tells me...it's going to cost more them $300 bucks for both speakers..i tend to believe him.
I simply asked where you came up with a $1000.00 for tweeters and crossover mods because it seemed pretty high unless you were using Dueland or Clarity MR's. Knowing what Trey uses I still don't see the $1000.00 price tag.your blunt statement that Sonus Farber speakers are better then Legacy speakers...what is your basic fact for this??? You don't have either of these speakers, so why do you think one is better then the other.
I just don't get some of your statements................
I've listened to a lot of Sonus Faber's line from entry to TOTL and some of Legacy's line including the Focus. Both brands have a house sound with SF being more refined and musical, which I fine sonically pleasing and realistic. Legacy tends to be more in your face, which I do not find pleasing or realistic. YMMV.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Just for what it is worth...
When I quote modifications for SDA it involves the following -
Tweeter Network - Clarity Cap ESA, Mundorf Mox
Woofer/SDA - Clarity Cap SA/PX
GIMPOD boards
Upgraded NL2 connection, NL2 15 FT RONDO 13 awg x 2 SDA connection
Upgraded binding post
Just the binding post, NL2, 15 ft RONDO cable is $120.00
GIMPOD $100.00
That's a bit more than just tweeters and crossover mods for $1000.00 as stated by the OP.$300??
Maybe if you are stacking parts like a mountain on a stock board and not touching the terminal cup
Yes, $300.00 in parts for what I stated previously and yes, stacked on the stock boards like it's been done until Tony offered his custom boards, which you still stack caps on. Never said anything about the binding post plate or parts.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I would not say I am "defending" anything - I just wanted to clear up I do not over charge anything.
No one, as far as I know, is accusing you of overcharging. The OP made a comment about the cost that I found out of line, therefore I wanted to know where he came up with it. It seems that he didn't quote your price correctly nor did he seem to know what it entailed.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I think this whole post is confusion... I would rate it up there with "nothing to see"
Did you ever get your CD player back....???- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Yes, confusion because the OP did not present all the information accurately even when asked. We'll chalk it up to the dental issues and move on.
Still in the effing shop....:frown:Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Yes, confusion because the OP did not present all the information accurately even when asked. We'll chalk it up to the dental issues and move on.
Still in the effing shop....:frown:
Freakin Dentist act like they own me at the moment.
They never stop, don't care if you have PERFECT teeth, they will find something to work on!:twisted:Testing
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Really? STILL in the shop...
JEEEZ- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
If you could see the women cleaning my teeth Trey!
OMG!
Yes I pay for non-necessary procedures!
But it almost breaks even as far as "worth it" is concerned!
SMOKING HOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
Its like Hooters without the wings!:cheesygrin:Testing
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While we're talking about mods and money......I've said this to Trey's face and I don't mind saying it here. He doesn't charge anywhere near enough in labor for what he does. I wouldn't touch a crossover for what he charges.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Still in the effing shop....:frown:
So are you using a turn table Jesse?:razz::biggrin: 
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."![:\](https://forum.polkaudio.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
Yep, the kind with a tray that you put a shiny disc on and push play.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Aluminum vinyl?? That's the first I've heard of that concept.:razz:
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
Gold too and no pops or clicks either!Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
While we're talking about mods and money......I've said this to Trey's face and I don't mind saying it here. He doesn't charge anywhere near enough in labor for what he does. I wouldn't touch a crossover for what he charges.
I have done it twice so far and have another set coming up, and I could not agree more with that statment!
Doing my speakers for me, is one story, doing it for customers is WAY different.
I have bragged on Trey before, you start showing pics, it becomes different all the sudden.
Alot of modders don't want to show pics, and Trey will show anything and everything with pics.
Beautimus Trey!
I have zoomed in and it is sweet to say the least.
You beat me in just being to lay them out (I have a hard time laying everything out properly), let alone make it look good!
It is a PITA!
I think I will stick with building cables!:eek:
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Have you used a player with a Pioneer Stable Platter Jesse?
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
Unless my Elite Blu-ray player has one, no.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
So are you using a turn table Jesse?:razz::biggrin:Yep, the kind with a tray that you put a shiny disc on and push play.
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I don't think any of the Pioneer Blu-Ray players use the Stable Platter as it was discontinued a number of years back. It's basically the concept of a turn table platter incorperated into a CD player. It's supposed to help with minimizing laser reading errors, and therefore reducing jitter. The concept seems sound and I like the sound I get from using a transport with the Stable Platter.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
I don't think any of the Pioneer Blu-Ray players use the Stable Platter as it was discontinued a number of years back. It's basically the concept of a turn table platter incorperated into a CD player. It's supposed to help with minimizing laser reading errors, and therefore reducing jitter. The concept seems sound and I like the sound I get from using a transport with the Stable Platter.
Most use the Phillips platter, No?Testing
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I think my Rotel 1093 is proprietary, not sure, but I like it, but know alot of them use the Phillips platter.
I actually have a Phillips 825 that is pretty clean sounding for its age.Testing
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I know the Phillips is a popular platter, but do not know for sure which is used in newer Pioneer players.
Here is a picture of the Pioneer Stable Platter:
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
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OK, I can say for sure my Blu-ray doesn't have that feature. I opened mine up because I open every piece of gear that rolls thru here and found the transport is sealed inside a metal casing, nice touch. Of course, I applied Dynamat anyway.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Not sure which player it is. I just pulled an example off the internet. My transport that uses the Stable Platter is the Theta Jade. An interesting usage note of the Stable Platter is that you inster the CD/SACD, etc upside down.
Jesse: Did Denon or Pioneer start the metal cage feature first? My Denon DVD-5910 uses the metal cage as well.
Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
"Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson
"Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee -
I had one just like that a few years back, but I am thinking it was the pds 93.
They are "stable" no doubt and probably do benefit from "less jitter".
Now a days naturally that is done through pcb's.
Would be the upmostest (is that a word?, OK maybe I made that up, so what?) transport IMHO! Testing
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