'Warm' meaning????

snake1
snake1 Posts: 567
edited October 2012 in Electronics
Ok, been looking and reading amp threads for ........I don't know how long. Well apparently, with my 12s, a 'warm' amp is preferred..........what does 'warm' mean???

The amps that have been suggested for 12s and A9s is usually parasound, bk, etc. and these are the warm ones?? Is this crushingly important or just suggested and really any quality amp will help?? Forgive all the questions, learning in progress!
AVR - Onkyo NR809
500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
Center - CSi5
Surround - FXiA6's
Sub - psw505
Movies and games - PS3
TV - Toshiba 52" HD

Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2012
    The best way I can describe it is it's more laid back, especially on the upper end of the spectrum. The Rti12's can be very forward sounding speakers (i have a pair) because they were designed that way for home theater use. Some consider them bright, especially for music. A "warm" amplifier will help tame the treble down, without reducing the detail.
  • bobsauto49
    bobsauto49 Posts: 973
    edited October 2012
    Warm meaning not bright,in your face,brash,harsh,shrill on the highs! Meaning smooth,mellow,With easy reserve power. Thats how i feel about warm!
    I'm sure someone else will chime in,with how wrong or right I am.
    "Everything I ever did in my life worthwhile I caught hell for"
  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited October 2012
    Let me ask another question. Does the AVR have anything to do with this issue? Can turning down the treble help compensate if a 'warm' amp can't be afforded??
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2012
    I like to avoid any kind of adjustments as far as bass or treble, I don't like the idea of adding or taking anything away from the music. However with that said you can tame the treble a little bit without it being an issue. Not 100% but I think with Audyssey you don't have the ability to adjust the eq or tone controls, it's either on or off.
  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited October 2012
    With it set i have changed the bass and treble levels in the past.
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2012
    Ok, I guess it was my older Denon that I had to turn Audyssey off before I could use the tone controls. I think any of those brands of amps will pair nicely with that avr and you'll have a great system going. Keep in mind speaker cables and interconnect cables can effect the sound as well, i'd personally save a little $ for some decent ones.
  • snake1
    snake1 Posts: 567
    edited October 2012
    Well i can't do much in this area.... Price es are too hi even used. Naturally emotivas have caught my eye but they have mixed reviews...
    AVR - Onkyo NR809
    500gb HD for MP3 and FLAC files
    Amp - Parasound 2250 - FOR SALE BTW!! PM me if interested!
    Mains - Polk RTi12 towers
    Center - CSi5
    Surround - FXiA6's
    Sub - psw505
    Movies and games - PS3
    TV - Toshiba 52" HD

    Every vehicle has one good nuetral drop in it
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2012
    They tend to be a brighter sound amp as well, they have very mixed reviews on here. I'd just keep an eye on craigslist, i've seen some great deals between 300-500ish that would do the job. Be patient and do some research and you'll find what you're looking for.
  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited October 2012
    B Run wrote: »
    Ok, I guess it was my older Denon that I had to turn Audyssey off before I could use the tone controls.

    I can go in and adjust the treble and bass but I cannot adjust the EQ unless I go in and manually set it up. I cannot tweek Audyssey's tone / eq adjustments. That is on my Onkyo TX-NR808
    AVR: Onkyo Tx-NR808
    Amplifier: Carver A-753x 250 watts x 3
    Fronts: Polk RTI A7 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Center: CSI A4 (modded by Trey VR3)
    Rear: FXI A4
    Sub: Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    TV: LG Infinia 50PX950 3D
    Speaker Cable: AudioQuest Type 8
    IC: AudioQuest Black Mamba II
  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited October 2012
    I always copied the Audessy EQ settings into the custom EQ and made changes from there.

    FWIW in my limited experience warm sounding speakers/amps have a more laid back sound to me with a deeper sound stage that seems to spread more evenly between the two speakers. Bright sounding speakers/amps seem very in your face, like the music is being hurled at you from the speakers and present a shallower, more two dimensional sound stage.

    The A9's for example were very in your face to begin with. The addition of the Parasound with some audessy tweaking smoothed and relaxed the sound, warming it up and making it easy to listen to them for hours without fatigue.
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