SRT controller w/o SRT speakers

nhhiep
nhhiep Posts: 877
edited October 2012 in Vintage Speakers
I've a SRT system now and not using because size. I am thinking buying another set of Lsi9s and create a SDA systems out of 4 Lsi9s using the controller. anyone done something like this before? this may be the newest and cheap way to merge old SDA tech with new, better drivers.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited October 2012
    AVR: Denon AVR 3806 => Fxi3
    AMP1: HK Citation 7.1 => SDA 1C & LSi9
    AMP2: HK Citation 7.1 => Csi5 & LSi7
    AMP3: HK Citation 7.1 => Rti12
    SUB: Deftech Supercube I

    You've got all that set up and you think the SRT system is too large!?!
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited October 2012
    Sda technology is not contained in the controller. It's more complicated than that.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited October 2012
    I thought SRT speakers are just normal speakers (in term of connections). I mean there is no SDA cable to link them. everything seem to go through that box. to me, it makes sense that way to put everything in the 1 controller to less complicate things. Have you tried or know anyone tried something like what I mentioned? I really wonder how it sounds like using 4 Lsi9s
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  • civilian
    civilian Posts: 357
    edited October 2012
    I think you need to re-check your speakers as they clearly have a second input as shown in the instructions:
    SRT SDA.JPG
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited October 2012
    nhhiep wrote: »
    I really wonder how it sounds like using 4 Lsi9s

    nothing like sda
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited October 2012
    civilian,
    that is what I am talking about. totally there are 4 outputs from the controller going to 2 satelines. anyone tried connecting the 4 outputs to 4 identical speakers?

    the SRT manual clearly says that the L & R part of the satelines are identical to the Center speaker. The other half part of each sateline is the SDA speaker, minus the tweeter.
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  • civilian
    civilian Posts: 357
    edited October 2012
    OK I get your idea now.
    Simple answer is if you are not happy with the big boys try it. If you don't like the sound use the new LS's as the four main channels without the controller.
    The SRT is awesome I'd love to have one someday. Just not sure how it would compare or integrate with today's multichannel setup going up to 11.1?>
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited October 2012
    civilian wrote: »
    I think you need to re-check your speakers as they clearly have a second input as shown in the instructions:
    SRT SDA.JPG

    Try removing the sda terminal plate and see what's behind it.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited October 2012
    civilian wrote: »
    OK I get your idea now.
    Simple answer is if you are not happy with the big boys try it. If you don't like the sound use the new LS's as the four main channels without the controller.
    The SRT is awesome I'd love to have one someday. Just not sure how it would compare or integrate with today's multichannel setup going up to 11.1?>


    The SRT are modular in design. They can accommodate any multichannel system as long as you have the proper amount of speakers.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited October 2012
    Nhhiep, You obviously don't have a clue as to how the sda effect is achieved. I suggest you read the white paper on it.
    SRT For Life; SDA Forever!

    The SRT SEISMIC System:
    Four main satellite speakers, six powered subs, two dedicated for LFE channel, two center speakers for over/under screen placement and three Control Centers. Amaze your friends, terrorize your neighbors, seize the audio bragging rights for your state. Go ahead, buy it; you only go around once.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2012
    Nhhiep,

    Regular SDA's are 100% passive in their achievement. SRT's use some active and some passive principles. While you can connect the SRT module to any speakers (the active part of the equation) you can't replicate the passive element using LSi 9's. It won't work as intended.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited October 2012
    Agreed ^^^^

    Your better off selling the SRT'S as a complete package and using the coin for other upgrades.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2012
    I might also add to my previous post, just adding the active controller to any old speakers also won't achieve the same results as using the SRT's speakers.

    Try it if you like, but once you reason it out, you might get something different, but it won't be like SDA's or like the SRT's.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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