Advice on Nanny Spy camera/ pin hole

doggie750

As noted on the subject, seeking several of these to be installed b4 we get a nanny on board. Like to view this via online while we're @ work. Please advice. Thank you. Been surfing the net but needed concrete 2cents from here. Thank u!

F1nut

Would you like it if your boss had you on video all day long?

rukawakaide1721

doggie750 wrote: »

As noted on the subject, seeking several of these to be installed b4 we get a nanny on board. Like to view this via online while we're @ work. Please advice. Thank you. Been surfing the net but needed concrete 2cents from here. Thank u!

Bro...from your location 3 stars and da sun, I assumed, you're from Philippines?

SDA1C

doggie750 wrote: »

As noted on the subject, seeking several of these to be installed b4 we get a nanny on board. Like to view this via online while we're @ work. Please advice. Thank you. Been surfing the net but needed concrete 2cents from here. Thank u!

One, I think you better tell the nanny she is being filmed. Two, I think you better not hire a nanny that you don't trust without being filmed. Three, I think Big Brother is getting out of control.

decal

I think you better not hire a nanny that you don't trust without being filmed.

My thoughts, exactly.

Polkie2009

Unfortunately, in this day and age, fewer and fewer people can be trusted taking care of the Kinder. DYODD and hopefully you'll find a good nanny.

evhudsons

get a hot nanny, pay her extra to sign a rease form, put her on the internet and you both make money. if she messes up thousands of horn dogs will let you know.

onebadchad

At least share the Ip address. we can help keep an eye on her too.. oh and dont forget the shower.. i hear most crime goes down in there.

steveinaz

Seriously, ditch the cameras and get some references. Cameras are not going to give you piece of mind, and they're kinda creepy.

doggie750

guys make sense, but on my side of the fence a stranger and my kids alone in the house is hard to get used to. I dont want wanna regret when it's too late...

steveinaz

I hear you, but insist on a number of references, you'll feel far better about it.

zingo

It's a hard topic because cameras might give some piece of mind, but it removes all trust with is not a good situation either. References are a good place to start; can you find someone though a friend or family member?

mrbigbluelight

I don't have any problem with installing nanny cams; your house, your kid, your rules.
"References" are nice, to be sure. But the mere possibility of hearing the phrase "Gosh ! We didn't know that ... fill-in-the-blank !" after an "incident" involving you child and your "referenced" nanny trumps all.

Invasion of privacy ? Don't know, but I wouldn't care if it was.
Maybe inform potential nannies that you have a home security system that involves remote monitoring. Show them a couple of cameras, neglect to mention the others.
Keeps them on their toes, keeps you in the know.

To paraphrase Barry Goldwater, "Extremism in the defense of your kids is not extremism".

tonyb

I hear your concerns, but really, is it more so that you are just not a trusting person ? Willing to film someone without them knowing ? Or is it you don't have the time to search for a quality nanny ? Then what ? You'll spend more of your time at work looking at the video, wondering whats going on, and your job will suffer.

If you can't put trust in anyone else, then one of you need to stay home with the kids. Nothing wrong with that either.

Ask around, maybe a retired school teacher could use the coin, a relative, friends spouse, even Nanny services offer some darn good screening before putting them out there, but they aren't cheap.

audiocr381ve

Someone is coming to your house to WORK. They have every right to know what kind of boss you are. If you're going to be slapping cameras every where they need to know, and I'd be willing to bet they walk. You need to give them an opportunity to make that decision and give them the facts. Like Jesse said, would you want someone filming you at work? You may not have anything to hide but it is absolutely stressful to some people to have someone over their shoulder and doesn't create a healthy working environment. Their are cases where it is necessary, but in this context I think the person watching your child should be informed. It might effect their decision to work for you.

Does mom work? Maybe it's time for her to stop and stay home. If that's not a hand you can play, then yes, find someone you can trust.

ROHfan

F1nut wrote: »

Would you like it if your boss had you on video all day long?

Many bosses do, and most companies with internet service monitor their employees' internet usage as well. They own the company, they can video and monitor all they want. It's been my experience that people who have a problem with stuff like that are people that have something to hide in the first place.

F1nut

ROHfan wrote: »

Many bosses do, and most companies with internet service monitor their employees' internet usage as well. They own the company, they can video and monitor all they want.

Not quite, but close.

https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs7-work.htm

On the matter of video monitoring......

6. Video Monitoring


Can employers use video monitoring in the workplace?

For the most part, yes. Video monitoring is a commonplace method of deterring theft, maintaining security and monitoring employees. For example, a bank may utilize video monitoring to prevent or collect evidence on a robbery. A company may also use video monitoring in a parking garage as a security measure for employee safety.

Employers may also use cameras to monitor employee productivity and prevent internal theft. Currently, federal law does not prevent video monitoring even when the employee does not know or consent to being monitored.

Are there situations where an employer cannot use video cameras?

In some instances, courts have upheld employee privacy. Specifically, courts have sided with employee privacy in instances where the monitoring has been physically invasive, such as hidden cameras in a locker room or bathroom. See National Workrights Institute?s Electronic Monitoring in the Workplace: Common Law & Federal Statutory Protection for a more in-depth discussion.

Some state laws may have restrictions on where, how and why an employer may videotape employees. Labor unions may negotiate limitations on video recordings of unionized workers. Union members should speak with a union representative if they have concerns about workplace video monitoring.

What about video cameras that include audio surveillance?

Video cameras that also capture audio recordings may be subject to laws relating to audio recording, including wiretap and eavesdropping laws.
Federal law does not prohibit audio recording of phone conversations as long as one party on the call consents to recording. Most states have extended this law to include recording in-person conversations. Twelve states have laws that require that all parties in a conversation consent to audio recording. For a state-specific guideline of laws regarding audio recording, visit Can We Tape? A Practical Guide to Taping Phone Calls and In-Person Conversation in the 50 States and D.C. (The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press).

It's been my experience that people who have a problem with stuff like that are people that have something to hide in the first place.

What a sad world you live in.

disneyjoe7

I believe its ok to video anyone without knowledge but not legal to audio recorded without their knowledge.

The law as I know this.

audiocr381ve

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

I believe its ok to video anyone without knowledge but not legal to audio recorded without their knowledge.

The law as I know this.

That's not the big issue. My big issue is working for someone who wouldn't want to disclose that to me. We're talking about human beings here and having a little integrity by letting them know or at least giving them an option to walk away. I personally wouldn't want to work for a boss who felt like they had to literally spy on me in this particular context.

jbooker82

Just install cameras and not hire a nanny. You can watch the kids your self, because that is what your going to be doing any way.

tonyb

jbooker82 wrote: »

Just install cameras and not hire a nanny. You can watch the kids your self, because that is what your going to be doing any way.

Silly.....the nanny is so he doesn't get arrested.

I think this thread is walking that line between paranoid and concerned. Think of it like this, in the absense of the parents the Nanny becomes the temp parent and should be given some authority to act as such. Video, cell phones, just undermine what the purpose is and pits the kids against the nanny. Now lets turn this around. You as the real parent, how would you feel if big brother said.....Ya know what, we can't trust you as the parent to raise your own kids so we will video tape you in your own home. The first time you give your kid a whack on the butt you'll get a knock on the door from the police, handcuffs ready.

If trust is an issue for you, then one of the parents need to stay home with the kids and adjust your lifestyle to accomadate that.

jbooker82

tonyb wrote: »

Silly.....the nanny is so he doesn't get arrested.

I think this thread is walking that line between paranoid and concerned. Think of it like this, in the absense of the parents the Nanny becomes the temp parent and should be given some authority to act as such. Video, cell phones, just undermine what the purpose is and pits the kids against the nanny. Now lets turn this around. You as the real parent, how would you feel if big brother said.....Ya know what, we can't trust you as the parent to raise your own kids so we will video tape you in your own home. The first time you give your kid a whack on the butt you'll get a knock on the door from the police, handcuffs ready.

If trust is an issue for you, then one of the parents need to stay home with the kids and adjust your lifestyle to accomadate that.

You 100% hit the nail on the head.

Upstatemax

I'm on the fence on this one...

I usually adopt a trust but verify attitude in these situations. I can't put cameras in my daughters daycare (wish I could, the owner is smoking hot), but I do stop by unannounced and at random times. We ask my daughter questions almost everyday about what she did all day.

I think a few cameras are fine, but you should not be watching them all day long either... I would just look in every few hours.

steveinaz

The camera thing just sounds like a cheap replacement for doing the proper research on the person. Just sayin.