Any reason at all to run this speaker set up???

naturallight
naturallight Posts: 689
edited September 2012 in Vintage Speakers
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Beside the fact it looks cool...LOL I just put the SDA's next to the 12's to try them out. Now to really run both sets of speakers, I'd have to get a Y rca cable from the pre to the two amps..plus another set of speaker wires.

Besides blowing your face off....would you get any good sound from this????

It just looks cool but..may be totally useless....
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    maybe good party sound, but i would think for critical listening it would not be the best. seems like imaging, details, and soundstages would get very muddy.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited September 2012
    The SDA's certainly need to be out front and perfectly centered on the wall. Put the other two behind you on a separate stereo channel and run them AB. As already mentioned neither sets would shine the way they are set up.
    Too much **** to list....
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited September 2012
    my setup is very similar to that. One for classical, jazz music, another for hip hop, rap, workout music.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    that makes sense. i assumed it was a situation where all 4 speakers were meant to be running together....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited September 2012
    Ugh!
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    No i was thinking at running all 4 speakers at the same time...yes its total abuse..and probably not sound that good.

    Yes it looks cool....what it sounds like could be utter trash....and would cost me some coin to try it out.

    It's pretty much..yeah the speakers are sitting there.....and you really want to try it out...but the cost of doing that, may be stupid in the first place...the sound may be crap...but you kind of sit there and go wow...what if i did that...what would it sound like...LOL
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    naturallight wrote: »
    No i was thinking at running all 4 speakers at the same time...yes its total abuse..and probably not sound that good.

    Yes it looks cool....what it sounds like could be utter trash....and would cost me some coin to try it out.

    It's pretty much..yeah the speakers are sitting there.....and you really want to try it out...but the cost of doing that, may be stupid in the first place...the sound may be crap...but you kind of sit there and go wow...what if i did that...what would it sound like...LOL
    throw a Sonic Hologram preamp on it and it will sound like a concert in a basketball arena....:cheesygrin:
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  • onebadchad
    onebadchad Posts: 364
    edited September 2012
    I think u need some d9's in there for color too
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    901's in the rear?
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    yeah..it just looks really cool...and you sit there and think...wow what would this sound like if i had all 4 speakers running.

    Its kind of mass Polk over kill...LOL
    Probably sound not so great...and cost me too much to find out..but it looks massive anyway...LMAO
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited September 2012
    I guess it's all part of your perspective, but I don't think it looks very cool, as you say. :eek:
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    naturallight wrote: »
    yeah..it just looks really cool...and you sit there and think...wow what would this sound like if i had all 4 speakers running.

    Its kind of mass Polk over kill...LOL
    Probably sound not so great...and cost me too much to find out..but it looks massive anyway...LMAO
    well some days you think about details and accuracy, and some days, just the sheer volume of air from lots of drivers seems like a good thing. i get that.... and it looks like a rock club on that wall...something i never got tired of when walking into a new club when we went out of town....
    but you know how it will sound already....
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  • civilian
    civilian Posts: 357
    edited September 2012
    I do like the color scheme of the room. Very Americana.
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  • onebadchad
    onebadchad Posts: 364
    edited September 2012
    I did not notice that, but a true patriot! Need some of these also
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    I would like to move the 12's to the back of the room..but there is a big bar and a small size beer fridge there. So a floor standing speaker is out of the question. I have a set of old Large Advents, which maybe i could hang from the ceiling in the corners. Just use the SDA's as fronts.


    Get a AVR preamp, and run this as a "surround" system. Not sure what that would sound like. Never had a "surround" system or HT thing. Since i'm really just an old 2 channel guy...it may sound like crap to me.

    I just have a lot of speakers sitting around right now..so the idea of haveing more speakers in the room sounds interesting...but then again..could be just a waste of money.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    Let me put it is this way..for lack of any better knowledge on the subject.


    If i'm used to the SDA's for 2 channel music...and this is a music only system. If you throw a set of Old Advents in the back of the room..then run an AVR preamp....which is "supposed" to get you "surround" sound. This is pretty much processed sound right?

    I "assume" you have to adjust the volume for the back speakers...and it is dependent on what you select from the AVR..like concert hall , or whatever you select?


    Again, i don't know anything about this HT stuff..or surround sound. So this is all a guess.


    I'm not sure there is a plus to this? Yes your getting sound from the back of the room...but it may no longer be very accurate, or correct sound. But i could be wrong.

    People seem to love this , but for a music only system..may be not very great at all. Sorry..just don't know about this.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2012
    Double UGH!

    Why did I even click on this thread, I knew it was going to be a train wreck.

    Naturallight, the scope of your question is beyond what can be conveyed in printed words. Your terminology is incorrect, what is an "AVR pre-amp"?

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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    Well thanks H9....a little more comprehensive answer would have been nice...but the double UGH. Seems to work.
    Altho alot of people seem to like to listen to music on these HT/AVR type systems. But i guess for strict 2 channel music stuff...it must get the UGH.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2012
    I don't understand what you are trying to do? I am not an AVR/HT guy. I have seperates and 2ch only.

    H9
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    Well...so am I. I have a set of Advents, that i could put in the back of the room. The SDA's in the front. The only way i think is could, or should work is with some AVR type preamp...So your running 4 speakers in the room. Thats all.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    My Knowlege about AVR stuff is at best min. But there are models that can be used as preamps, and connect to other power amps.
    I mean, yes i can just get a Y connector, off the Adcom..run 2 power amps...put the Advents in the back of the room. So yes..you end up with full room sound. But, may not be worth the effort. This "surround" or HT stuff seems to be what people like....and they listen to music on it and like it alot. So just a thought about doing that..nothing more.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited September 2012
    if you are playing stereo music on a 4 speaker system, it will not be surround sound, its still 2 channel. it is not multi channel encoded. all you will be doing is sending what is in front of you, behind you as well. you will end up with confused imaging, muddy detail, and though it might seem spacious to begin with, i personally don't care for it. tried it back in the 80's in college....
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited September 2012
    OK Thanks. Shows you how much i know about this stuff...LOL For some reason I thought the AVR was doing all the "surround" work. But it would make sence that you need an ecoded source to get that. So i guess people who listen to music on these systems is really off a DVD thats encoded for that.

    It's time for me to go back to my 2 channel world and stop messing with ideas i have no clue about...LOL
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