Did anyone see this shooting today...

avelanchefan
avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
edited February 2024 in Clubhouse Archives
It would be funny if it were not so scary. How this guy unloaded a gun and hit him only two or three times from within feet is just damn right strange. He hid behind a tree during the ordeal, but it's real weird watching the people in the background during the ordeal. You see a lady on a pay phone, and as the shooting occurs you see her hang up and then pick up the phone again, to which I assume she was calling 911. Hell I probably would have been running in the exact opposite direction of that loony. (Looks like she is wearing a Hooters outfit...which is the first place I would have headed after seeing that messed up ordeal!:) )
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited October 2003
    What sickens me more is we've become a nation of spectators and voyeurs. Didn't anyone think to SAVE this guy instead of filming him KILL someone. Is the **** video worth someone's life?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited October 2003
    Agreed. At the MINIMUM, someone could have chunked the camera at the guy...do SOMETHING, christ.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by avelanchefan
    How this guy unloaded a gun and hit him only two or three times from within feet is just damn right strange.

    If you can't kill somebody on the first try, you should not be allowed to even HOLD a firearm. He was obviously not a card carrying member of the NRA.
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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited October 2003
    Local LA news and the others like CNN are showing the whole thing. It's like watching the matrix cept in super slow mo.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited October 2003
    I think it's a disgrace that this was even shown on TV. No wonder I don't watch the "news". News reporting use to be about morals and ethics, remember those!?!
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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited October 2003
    news is about ratings and useless ads
    i hardly watch the news nowadays
    bring on HD sports :)
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited October 2003
    A fat guy with a gun in his hand, and a broad in a Hooters uniform ... I think that picture should replace the stars and stripes as our Nation's flag.

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  • gshisme
    gshisme Posts: 1,038
    edited November 2003
    And to think I'm almost sympathetic for the guy.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2003
    I saw that video. The shooter didn't seem to understand the whole gun thing. It looked as if he had no relationship with his weapon. Does anyone know the story behind the altercation?
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited November 2003
    Do you love it?
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited November 2003
    Originally posted by madmax
    The shooter didn't seem to understand the whole gun thing. It looked as if he had no relationship with his weapon. madmax

    Shooting a handgun well is quite hard. Many people like him own a snub .38 and haven't shot it for 15 years. Other people, like me, practice regularly and are far more proficient with their firearms.
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  • Polk-a-nizer
    Polk-a-nizer Posts: 225
    edited November 2003
    Probably wind up as a rental at Video Warehouse. THe things people will pay to watch..... Now if you'll excuse me I just rented "Faces of Death:4"......:D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2003
    Originally posted by Dr. Spec
    Shooting a handgun well is quite hard. Many people like him own a snub .38 and haven't shot it for 15 years. Other people, like me, practice regularly and are far more proficient with their firearms.

    I almost got the feeling this guy had never used a gun before. I was a little surprised there was absolutely no kick back either. It almost looked like a .22 or something similar. I keep thinking about if I were in that guys shoes. Why keep pulling the trigger if you are not going to hit him? It's almost as if he was trying to put the fear of God in his target but hadn't decided to kill him. Sorry to keep the thread going but it doesn't all make sense to me. Lets say I had the gun. Why would I be in such a hurry to pump the shots out? Given enough time I would have told the guy he was dead, waited for him to give me a clear view then done the act. Maybe when you are there in person it is different. Cheers to the guy doing the video tape. He took a chance for sure. You can say he could have done something about it but I doubt anyone without a weapon would have. Took some balls to keep the act in focus and in frame.

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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited November 2003
    Didn't anyone think to SAVE this guy instead of filming him KILL someone. Is the **** video worth someone's life?
    Agreed. At the MINIMUM, someone could have chunked the camera at the guy...do SOMETHING, christ.


    Let's see, here's a guy with a loaded gun firing at someone, you think anyone is stupid enough to run up and tackle this guy or get close enough to throw something at him, **** no, I wouldn't. Let alone, the way these guys were jumping around, you might throw something hitting the wrong guy, knocking him down and then he ends up shot and dead.

    How far can you throw a camera, 15' maybe? You going to get that close to a guy firing a gun, don't think so.


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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited November 2003
    Yeah, it's not always an easy decision today to figure out if and when you should involve yourself to help somebody out in a situation like this (or something similar and perhaps not even so violent), not only for safety reasons but for litigious ones as well.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited November 2003
    Originally posted by RuSsMaN
    Agreed. At the MINIMUM, someone could have chunked the camera at the guy...do SOMETHING, christ.

    hey those cameras cost $70,000

    but your point is well taken.

    I know. I know. someone should have done SOME THING to help the guy.. but i don't think i would either.. how knows if the guy had more guns in his bag or what.. then we'd have more people shot and possibly killed.

    Sidenote: Is it okay to show this video on the nightly news? Our newsroom went around and around whether to show it or not. in the end we did not show the video. only stills but no gun shots.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited November 2003
    No one could have done a thing. By the time the first shot was fired to the unload it was, what, 20 seconds if that. By the time people realized what was happening it was over.


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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2003
    Did you see the guy walking behind pointing at him as the off duty super cop tackled him! Now that restores my faith in society!

    I have no problems with them showing this although I thought it would have been appropriate to give several heads up of what was coming so the kiddies could be sent on their way. Truthfully it may have been a good lesson that should be seen by all: Fat old looser guy fires gun at victim, caught on tape, bystander points him out and supercop takes him down. Now, lets read Cat in the Hat again...

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  • dlew308
    dlew308 Posts: 530
    edited November 2003
    Who's the real victim here? The lawyer accused of taking the old man's money or the shooter mad at the leeching lawyer? hmm hmm
    Forget the gun, put these 2 in a boxing ring and settle it.
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  • burdette
    burdette Posts: 1,194
    edited November 2003
    Sam Kinison sort of touched on this... talking about news crews in areas of famine, filming starving kids... "I'm like anyone else on this planet -- I'm very moved by world hunger. I see the same commercials, with those little kids, starving, and very depressed. I watch those kids and I go, '****, I know the FILM crew could give this kid a sandwich!' There's a director five feet away going, 'DON'T FEED HIM YET! GET THAT SANDWICH OUTTA HERE! IT DOESN'T WORK UNLESS HE LOOKS HUNGRY!!!'

    Gotta include the rest of the bit, because it is so classic:

    But I'm not trying to make fun of world hunger. Matter of fact, I think I have the answer. You want to stop world hunger? Stop sending these people food. Don't send these people another bite, folks. You want to send them something, you want to help? Send them U-Hauls. Send them U-Hauls, some luggage, send them a guy out there who says, 'Hey, we been driving out here every day with your food, for, like, the last thirty or forty years, and we were driving out here today across the desert, and it occurred to us that there wouldn't BE world hunger, if you people would LIVE WHERE THE FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! YOU LIVE IN A **** DESERT! NOTHING GROWS OUT HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW OUT HERE! YOU SEE THIS? HUH? THIS IS SAND. KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW? IT'S GONNA BE SAND! YOU LIVE IN A **** DESERT! GET YOUR STUFF, GET YOUR ****, WE'LL MAKE ONE TRIP, WE'LL TAKE YOU TO WHERE THE FOOD IS! WE HAVE DESERTS IN AMERICA -- WE JUST DON'T LIVE IN THEM, ****!"
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited November 2003
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    Classic Kinison!
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