dared sl-2000a tube pre amp

agco
agco Posts: 36
edited August 2012 in Electronics
Just a little advice from those that know these tube pre amps. Would something like the dared sl-2000a improve quality of sound between my 7605 adcom and sony reciver? I dont think i could run my center channel through it. Why i ask is i happened to be at best buy the other day and they had a small unit made by samsui i think and it was vac tube and you could sure tell the difference between it and the one which wasnt. thanks
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    You are looking for a tube buffer, the Dared SL2000a is a pre-amp not a buffer, so no, it won't work they way you want to configure it.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    Best Buy is selling tube gear ?!?!?!?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    Best Buy is selling tube gear ?!?!?!?

    I believe Samsung has an HT receiever that has tubes glowing in a window as the tubes are inside.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/HT-E6500W/ZA

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • agco
    agco Posts: 36
    edited August 2012
    I looked at the buffers not so sure about them. Look a little cheap to me. Was thinking of rti a7 or the lsim703 for the front main speakers. whats your thoughts on these two speakers. thanks
    ht rm.:loneranger:
    arcam rblink
    tyler acoustics d4mx frt.
    csi a4 polk audio ctr.
    fxi 3 polk audio bck
    dsw 550 wi polk audio sub
    sony 3600 es
    adcom gfa 7605
    sony bdp s-270
    sony 40 lcd wide screen
    panamax m4300

    game:redface:
    32 in. samsung
    sony dhs810
    m10 polk audio
    Polk audio rti a1

    zone 2:eek:
    bose 601
    advent 6003
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,204
    edited August 2012
    I have 703's with a Grant Fidelity B-283 tube buffer in the chain between the pre- and CDP. My opinion is that the tube buffer was a great buy for the money. Can't remember exactly what I paid for it, but right around $100 (bought it here at CP).

    My pre- is a Rotel 116 and amp is a Carver tfm-55.

    No experience with the RTiA7, but I can't imagine it's anywhere close to the 703 for music. The 703 is just an amazing bookshelf speaker.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I believe Samsung has an HT receiever that has tubes glowing in a window as the tubes are inside.

    http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-theater/HT-E6500W/ZA

    H9

    Ah, it's a Samsung. Wonder who they copied it from? :biggrin:
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • agco
    agco Posts: 36
    edited August 2012
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    I have 703's with a Grant Fidelity B-283 tube buffer in the chain between the pre- and CDP. My opinion is that the tube buffer was a great buy for the money. Can't remember exactly what I paid for it, but right around $100 (bought it here at CP).

    My pre- is a Rotel 116 and amp is a Carver tfm-55.

    No experience with the RTiA7, but I can't imagine it's anywhere close to the 703 for music. The 703 is just an amazing bookshelf speaker.

    Sounds like grant fidelity b-283 tube buffer would place to go for me. Looks cool and improved sound. Do realy like the 703 next step. Thanks
    ht rm.:loneranger:
    arcam rblink
    tyler acoustics d4mx frt.
    csi a4 polk audio ctr.
    fxi 3 polk audio bck
    dsw 550 wi polk audio sub
    sony 3600 es
    adcom gfa 7605
    sony bdp s-270
    sony 40 lcd wide screen
    panamax m4300

    game:redface:
    32 in. samsung
    sony dhs810
    m10 polk audio
    Polk audio rti a1

    zone 2:eek:
    bose 601
    advent 6003
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    WARNING! My first piece of tube gear was the Grant Fidelity tube buffer. It is a very low cost admission ticket to a very expensive party! You will love it, and then if you're like me, it won't be your last piece of tube gear! It's great, but consider yourself warned....
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • agco
    agco Posts: 36
    edited August 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    WARNING! My first piece of tube gear was the Grant Fidelity tube buffer. It is a very low cost admission ticket to a very expensive party! You will love it, and then if you're like me, it won't be your last piece of tube gear! It's great, but consider yourself warned....

    :eek:Thanks for the warning. Marriage tester . I appreciate the response guys. Helped alot
    ht rm.:loneranger:
    arcam rblink
    tyler acoustics d4mx frt.
    csi a4 polk audio ctr.
    fxi 3 polk audio bck
    dsw 550 wi polk audio sub
    sony 3600 es
    adcom gfa 7605
    sony bdp s-270
    sony 40 lcd wide screen
    panamax m4300

    game:redface:
    32 in. samsung
    sony dhs810
    m10 polk audio
    Polk audio rti a1

    zone 2:eek:
    bose 601
    advent 6003
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited August 2012
    nspindel wrote: »
    WARNING! My first piece of tube gear was the Grant Fidelity tube buffer. It is a very low cost admission ticket to a very expensive party! You will love it, and then if you're like me, it won't be your last piece of tube gear! It's great, but consider yourself warned....

    He He I told you. Greetings from your first tube pusher! ;-)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    I got hit by the tube bug hard. I now have 5 pieces of tube gear and 3 boxes aprox. 150 pieces of tubes for said gear. Hell, I have (6) rectifiers for the Dared alone. 4 different brands/construction with a couple of my favorites as duplicates.

    I joke that I can't stop buying tubes, and it has become a minor addiction as I sit here with 2 more postal packages of tubes that arrived today with another on the way.

    I do need to stop, seriously I do.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I got hit by the tube bug hard. I now have 5 pieces of tube gear and 3 boxes aprox. 150 pieces of tubes for said gear. Hell, I have (6) rectifiers for the Dared alone. 4 different brands/construction with a couple of my favorites as duplicates.

    I joke that I can't stop buying tubes, and it has become a minor addiction as I sit here with 2 more postal packages of tubes that arrived today with another on the way.

    I do need to stop, seriously I do.

    H9

    Sounds like it's time for some TRA meetings (Tube Rollers Anonymous). lol

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    cnh wrote: »
    Sounds like it's time for some TRA meetings (Tube Rollers Anonymous). lol

    cnh

    Lol..........is it bad if I am "watching" 61 active tube auctions on Ebay?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited August 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I got hit by the tube bug hard. I now have 5 pieces of tube gear and 3 boxes aprox. 150 pieces of tubes for said gear. Hell, I have (6) rectifiers for the Dared alone. 4 different brands/construction with a couple of my favorites as duplicates.

    I joke that I can't stop buying tubes, and it has become a minor addiction as I sit here with 2 more postal packages of tubes that arrived today with another on the way.

    I do need to stop, seriously I do.


    H9

    I feel your pain. Seriously I do. I'm in a similiar situation and I have a package for a matched pair of RCA 5751 TM BPs on their way. As I've said before, hi my name is Steve and I'm a tube addict. :-)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2012
    Probably! That's a "deadly" combo: Tubes and ebay! I just went cold turkey off my ebay addiction a month ago. Can't imagine if I could have broken free if we added "tubes"?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited August 2012
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    He He I told you. Greetings from your first tube pusher! ;-)

    Oops sorry I got you and PSOLVSK mixed up. My bad!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    Ebay and tubes - The addiction

    1) lots of stuff available
    2) the hunt
    3) the hunt for a great deal, perhaps something the seller doesn't even know he has
    4) the thrill of sniping
    5) the thrill of winning
    6) the anticipation of getting a package in the mail
    7) actually listening and evaluating said tubes
    8) sense of accomplishment for getting a good deal on something cool!

    Only downside

    1) purchasing something totally unecessary
    2) realizing you might have an Ebay problem
    3) not wanting to sell the hoard for fear of never finding them again
    4) realizing whatever you want will always eventually be for sale again on Ebay at some point.
    5) the Ebay app for my Droid

    The cool thing for me is I'm a bargain hunter and I will wait 6-8 months for a particular tube I want to try to get a good deal. So the hunt and deal is the thrill for me. I haven't ever really paid what the avearage market price is for a pair of used tubes. I wait patiently until I can get a killer deal.

    Most recent killer deal is a pair of 1958 Mullard ECC83 Long Plates for 1/6th what they typically go for. Can't find another pair even close to what I paid so far. But the guy didn't really know what he had. I asked the right questions and he had a low BIN so I snagged them before someone else could.

    That's what makes it fun for me, anyone can find and pay top dollar for any tube they want, me it's the constant hunt for a good deal on a rare tube or a tube I don't have.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,168
    edited August 2012
    I just bought a NOS Quad of SED =C= EL34's for $60. Do I need them? No. Was it a killer deal from a reputable Ebayer? You bet. He had (4) sets of quads and they were gone in 1 hour.

    Most NOS SED =C= EL34 (Quads) sell for $120-160.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I got hit by the tube bug hard. I now have 5 pieces of tube gear and 3 boxes aprox. 150 pieces of tubes for said gear. Hell, I have (6) rectifiers for the Dared alone. 4 different brands/construction with a couple of my favorites as duplicates.

    I joke that I can't stop buying tubes, and it has become a minor addiction as I sit here with 2 more postal packages of tubes that arrived today with another on the way.

    I do need to stop, seriously I do.

    H9


    First step is admitting you have a problem!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,204
    edited August 2012
    Dawgfish wrote: »
    Oops sorry I got you and PSOLVSK mixed up. My bad!

    I just assumed you were responsible for getting both of us started:evil::biggrin:
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited August 2012
    I very well may have, lol. I know you're not the only one. Maybe I should be detained?
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited August 2012
    Nah, fraid it wasn't me. I bought mine new. I sold it about two weeks later, I believe to someone on here, can't remember. When I got my tube pre-amp. My first tube pre-amp. I'm now on my fourth tube pre-amp.......
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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