Tube CD Player

deronb1
deronb1 Posts: 5,021
edited September 2012 in Electronics
I am trying to "warm up" the sound in my 2ch system. Would a tube CD be the most effective route?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited August 2012
    Let me put it this way, I'll never own a CDP that doesn't have tubes.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Let me put it this way, I'll never own a CDP that doesn't have tubes.

    Ok then! How about some sort of buffer until I can save up for one of these pricey things? :cry:
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,338
    edited August 2012
    It will with the right tubes. Tubes are just part of it. You need a good transport, good electronics (caps, clock, power supply, etc). Isolation from vibration, an of course good quality signal and power cables.

    Some tube CD players have tubes just for show. They need to be in the analog output to be effective. Tube rectification in the PS is also a big plus.
    Carl

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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,338
    edited August 2012
    deronb1 wrote: »
    Ok then! How about some sort of buffer until I can save up for one of these pricey things? :cry:
    I used a Musical Fidelity buffer and it did help take the edge of some of my recordings. The price was very reasonable. Some buffers use tubes that don't have a lot of variety for rolling.
    Carl

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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    edited August 2012
    I have seen "Yaquin" products pretty reasonable on ebay. Made in China I think. Are these crap? Just want something to "warm up" the sound a bit.
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  • pietro944
    pietro944 Posts: 720
    edited August 2012
    deronb1 wrote: »
    Ok then! How about some sort of buffer until I can save up for one of these pricey things? :cry:

    I use the Yaqin CD3 Tube Buffer($164/Shipped) with 2 RCA 6SN7 tubes....terrific,it's never coming out of my system:biggrin:
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited August 2012
    Most of us mere mortals can't afford a $6000 or $7000 cd player.
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited August 2012
    I love my Jolida JD-100, can be had used for about $500 or new for around $900. The right tubes really make this player warm things up, nothing worse then listening to a bright player, the Jolida is very musical.
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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited August 2012
    The Jolida is a nice unit. Another one to look for used in the $900 to $1000 range is the Lector 0.6t. Uses 12AT7 tubes as the true amplifiers (not as cathode followers) and no opamps. Extremely musical and enjoyable to listen to. Responds well to a little tube rolling :cheesygrin:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,166
    edited August 2012
    Since you're wanting to warm things up have you considered a moderately priced tubed pre-amp? Of course this is assuming you run seperates. If not a buffer is a nice step.

    The Yaqin CD3 which uses 6SN7 tubes would be a great choice, better than the CD2 since in general there are better 6SN7 tubes vs. 6AK5.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • mister pig
    mister pig Posts: 28
    edited August 2012
    One thing to consider is that many lower priced tube CD players do not use the tubes as an output stage. They are a buffer, with op amps doing the heavy lifting of providing gain. Just something to consider.

    Regards
    Mister Pig
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited August 2012
    grant fidelity has a tube dac. for 350 that also has a built in buffer. you can put your cd coax out to the grant, you can calso put put it between your pre and amp if you also choose to instead. or, you can use it as a preamp!

    YOu missed it. i just sold my jolida that i had for sale here with upgraded ei tubes.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2012
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    I love my Jolida JD-100, can be had used for about $500 or new for around $900. The right tubes really make this player warm things up, nothing worse then listening to a bright player, the Jolida is very musical.

    Have to agree there. I run one myself for this very reason. My model was the short-lived step up from the 100 that is probably being replaced by the 200. It wasn't cost effective to sell my model, so they upgraded the 100 with more tubes, etc. at a slightly lower price than the Music Van below (I got mine on discount in any case, so I can't complain--it really does "warm" things up, I have yet to hear a DAC Box sound "warm" (without tubes) though some are excellent at what they do).

    BTW, Sal, if that's what you and Jesse are running, it must be pretty "amazing"! Out of my league. I'll have to be satisfied experimenting with tube rolling!

    cnh
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited August 2012
    I also have the Jolida CDP but replaced the tubes w/ the Psvane ones.

    These tubes really took the sound to the next level. Highly recomended.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited August 2012
    chumlie wrote: »
    Most of us mere mortals can't afford a $6000 or $7000 cd player.

    That was the price new for the player. Start out with something smaller like a Jolida and if you like it and want to see what other stuff can do move up the chain. Jolida's can be nice and you can find info on doing mods to them to get more out of it.
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