Disassembling a LSiM

falconcry72
falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
edited August 2012 in Speakers
How the heck do you open up a LSiM703 to, say, replace a driver?

I just sent an email to Polk CS, but I figured I'd post here in case anyone has any good tips/tricks.


The problem is, I have a mid-driver that's creating distortion. When I switch the speakers, the problem follows the speaker, so I know it's not other equipment. It's almost inaudible from the listening position on complicated music like rock, but on mid-heavy, less complicated stuff, where that driver is more isolated, like on a solo vibraphone, it's unbearable.


Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I have no warranty.


Ideas?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,751
    edited August 2012
    These are not the Polk demo speakers that you have, right?
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    These are not the Polk demo speakers that you have, right?

    No, the demos are perfect.

    I bought a used pair after loving the demos so much. Maybe I could switch out my bad speaker for one of the demos and no one would be the wiser!!:twisted: jk
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,751
    edited August 2012
    Ok, you have to peel back the rubber ring around the driver and pull it off to reveal the screws.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok, you have to peel back the rubber ring around the driver and pull it off to reveal the screws.

    Does it go back on easily, or is it a "destroy on the process of removal" type thing?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,751
    edited August 2012
    It goes back on easily.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2012
    Does the rubber gasket around the driver peel back to reveal screw heads?
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    It goes back on easily.

    That's good news. I'll give it a whirl. Thanks.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited August 2012
    I think the top portion is held on by glue. It was easy for me to pull off the mid and bass driver rubber rings but the tweeter and 3 1/2 driver portion seem like it was glued so I didn't remove it.(LSIm 705's)
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2012
    The problem is, I have a mid-driver that's creating distortion. When I switch the speakers, the problem follows the speaker, so I know it's not other equipment. It's almost inaudible from the listening position on complicated music like rock, but on mid-heavy, less complicated stuff, where that driver is more isolated, like on a solo vibraphone, it's unbearable.

    Ouch! That stinks. Hope they get you fixed up quick!
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    Ouch! That stinks. Hope they get you fixed up quick!

    Well, there really is no "they" to fix me up, as I bought them used with no warranty. You can't hear the distortion on most material, so i didn't hear the problem when I auditioned them.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2012
    Well, there really is no "they" to fix me up, as I bought them used with no warranty. You can't hear the distortion on most material, so i didn't hear the problem when I auditioned them.

    I meant "they get you fixed up quick" as more of a "they put you on the path to figure out whats wrong and possibly fix it" kinda thing :biggrin:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    I meant "they get you fixed up quick" as more of a "they put you on the path to figure out whats wrong and possibly fix it" kinda thing :biggrin:

    Gotcha, yea, thanks. Hopefully it's just the driver so I can pop a new one in and done.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • codyc1ark
    codyc1ark Posts: 2,532
    edited August 2012
    Gotcha, yea, thanks. Hopefully it's just the driver so I can pop a new one in and done.

    Take photos of the process for the rest of us?
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    codyc1ark wrote: »
    Take photos of the process for the rest of us?

    Will do. I'm going to take my time. No point in scuffin' up these beauties!
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited August 2012
    I thought the speakers were covered under warranty for a set time, as long as it was from an authorized dealer? I bought a used set of monitors off craigslist and they replaced the tweeter free, even though I wasn't the original owner, maybe I just got lucky?
  • nwohlford
    nwohlford Posts: 700
    edited August 2012
    B Run wrote: »
    I thought the speakers were covered under warranty for a set time, as long as it was from an authorized dealer? I bought a used set of monitors off craigslist and they replaced the tweeter free, even though I wasn't the original owner, maybe I just got lucky?

    You would usually need the receipt or other proof of purchase. Often the warranty does specify the original owner, but the name on receipt does not need to match since it could be a gift.
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited August 2012
    Just a quick update. It was the tweeter that was bad, not the mid driver. Got a new one from Polk, popped it in, and I'm all set!

    No real point in posting pics, once the rubber trim is removed, taking the actual drivers out is obvious.

    The tricky part is removing the rubber trim. On the woofer (and I'd assume also on the passives), it pops right out and snaps securely back in place. Super easy. The trim around the mid/high array, however, has some adhesive holding it in, so it's a little tricky. As usual, having the proper tool makes all the difference, as you really don't want to scratch up the beautiful piano black finish. My tool of choice was the business end of a plastic spoon. I just pried one spot up with the spoon and then worked my way around pulling carefully with my fingers.

    Before I started I was concerned that I'd hurt the rubber trim, but that was because I didn't realize how substantial that rubber actually is. It's thick, sturdy, and robust. You'd have to do something really stupid to rip it.

    I'm not sure why there's adhesive on the mid/high array trim because it has a plastic backing that helps it snap into place similar to the woofer's trim. Anyway, once you know what you're doing, it's a quick, easy job.


    Loving these speakers!:biggrin:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,781
    edited August 2012
    In my experience with Polk if it is something you could not have caused they have covered me (Out of warranty or not an original owner)
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