Audioquest Dragonfly

AsSiMiLaTeD
AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
edited March 2014 in 2 Channel Audio
Anyone tried one of these? It's about the size of a USB thumb drive and is a DAC (Sabre 9023) and headphone amp. I wonder how good something this size can be. It's $250 so not a huge investment as something to try out.

I'm thinking of picking one up to use at work and on the go, supposed to work with my Mac machines and my Windows machine at work as well. I'm curious if anyone has picked one up, has any thoughts on it.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited July 2012
    I'm curious if anyone has picked one up, has any thoughts on it.

    I haven't but I believe there was a decent review of it by Cnet and they liked it....
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited July 2012
    There's also a review over on Head-Fi and is favorable as well.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited July 2012
    Check out W4S, they have a new udac with usb and coax I believe for something like 375, with the Saber dac chips too.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited July 2012
    Is that a similar type of DAC in terms of size and functionality (size of a thumb drive and with the headphone amp built in)?
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited July 2012
    Is that a similar type of DAC in terms of size and functionality (size of a thumb drive and with the headphone amp built in)?

    Nope.
  • whereas
    whereas Posts: 10
    edited July 2012
    From what I've read, audio quest is considering releasing an adapter which would change the direction of the dragonfly so that it doesn't stick directly out from the usb, but rather at a 90 degree angle. This makes an already great DAC even more interesting.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2012
    tasymac, you have pi$$ed me off. Bye bye.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited August 2012
    Bump, coolsax I know you have one of these and there may be others as well, what do you think of it?
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,727
    edited August 2012
    whereas wrote: »
    From what I've read, audio quest is considering releasing an adapter which would change the direction of the dragonfly so that it doesn't stick directly out from the usb, but rather at a 90 degree angle. This makes an already great DAC even more interesting.
    I believe that is what's being referred to as the DragonTail
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited August 2012
    Well after some good listening the last couple days, I love it.. the sound is clear and detailed and smooth, no digital harshness that i can tell. It drives my can's w/o any issues whatsoever. I did a lot of classical listening last night and was just really lost in the music. One thing you do have to take into account is that if you are using it as an amp, volume control must be done with the main computer volume and not your player volume(keep this at max) to access the analog volume control. If you use the player volume then the volume is kept in the digital domain and you have the theoretical loss of data when lowering volume.

    AQ has a massive winner on their hands with this as I think for many budget audiophiles or just regular audio enthusiasts, this could be all that they need. The hardest to drive can's I have are HD 650s but there are plenty of owners out there saying that they drive many of their Hi-Fi man(though not all) and Audeze Cans as well. I'm hoping this weekend to get my AD 700s and P5s connected and see how they sound through it as well, but even two days in I can't see going back to my old set up. (which was probably just adequate as it was).

    After doing so much reading and researching at least online I think the only other dac/amp that might interest me at this price point is the new Grant Fidelity TubeDac, but it would instantly lose the ease of use and portability of the dragonfly.
    by getting a satsifying amp/dac combo at this price point it will allow me to get a stand alone dac for my SBT that much quicker.
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  • EDUBAG
    EDUBAG Posts: 403
    edited August 2012
    i have a similar product, audioengine w2. the size of a domino but i do not know how it would compare sonically. it sells for 150 and i love it for the practical point of view.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited September 2012
    Ok, I've had this for a full two weeks now and its not going back. Was finally able to sit down and do an A/B comparison (as well as possible since both amps handle analog differently, hard to volume match, but i think i was close.

    my old set up HRT MSII with a Fiio E9 amp.
    I think its a decent set up for an entry level system for sure. the E9 has plenty of power, even if its not subtle, to drive a lot of different phones. The HRT is a nice async USB dac, but for whatever reason it never really played nice with my laptops and had a tendency to get staticy if being powered directly by the laptop so i had a selfpowered usb hub in between. I think it did the job it was built to do but it does have a little bit of an edge to it.

    my new set up the Audioquest Dragonfly
    This little device handily beat the above system. it drives my HD 650s well and provides noticeably better sound quality. The edge from the old system is gone and so shouty portions of music are much smoother. I also think the tone is an upgrade as well, the Dragon fly is noticeably more musical and I find myself getting lost in the music much easier than I did with the HRT and Fiio. It also does well plugged directly into the laptop, even though its powered by the laptop and in turn powers my 300 ohm HD 650s, I have no issues with sound degradation due to to static.

    All in all I'm very happy with the purchase and the old setup will be going up for sale in the next day or 3. If you're looking for a very nice and simple and very portable all in one solution you could do a lot worse than the Dragonfly. It would take either my purchasing much more power hungry cans or having to shut down my listening room for me to feel the need to upgrade much further at this point with my current financial situation.

    i haven't tried yet as a line out to a regular amp or powered speakers situation but I would imagine it would work just fine feeding into any kind of preamp/integrated amp or powered speakers.
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  • spotty
    spotty Posts: 5
    edited March 2014
    I listen to lost of music from my PC using Spotify, and I was getting dissatisfied with the music quality of the built in sound card - my friend loaned my his Audioquest Dragonfly USB DAC 1.2 for the weekend - my music via the DAC opened up significantly, much more air and space around each instrument, in a word just miles better than before. I'm now saving up :-)