Are these original RTA12s? NOT RTA12As or Bs . . . based on serial # . . . pics below

GlennDog
GlennDog Posts: 3,120
edited July 2012 in Vintage Speakers
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Are these upgradeable w/ new boards RTA12s (first run/very early production)? I don't think so, but I need to ask. They have external fuses, vertical mounted tweets and in good shape. The pcb does not appear to be "printed" ??

They're asking $300 and 4 hours away . . . I'm impressed with my friends 12Cs . .Will I be disappointed? ty

Thanks as always,

G
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited July 2012
    early 12's and too much $$ IMHO.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited July 2012
    If they were C's and very nice yes, if just 12's no! Mho
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  • factorz
    factorz Posts: 353
    edited July 2012
    My local CL had a pair that were at $140 before the ad came down. I think $300 is way too much plus the drive makes it even worse of a deal. I would wait and look for a pair of 12C's or SDA's in your area.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    edited July 2012
    Thanks guys! I appreciate your comments . . .

    G
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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
    edited July 2012
    To confirm, yes, those are the original model RTA12's & I agree, they're not worth $300. If they're in excellent shape - which we can't tell by the pics, then maybe they're worth $150. They're good speaks, no doubt about it. But if you can, I suggest holding out for some B's or, best, C's.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    What am I missing here? With the Monitors, the originals, or "A" versions, are more desirable because of the Peerless tweet. Why is that not the same with the RTA's? What changed between the A, B, & C, besides the tweeter???
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited July 2012
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    What am I missing here? With the Monitors, the originals, or "A" versions, are more desirable because of the Peerless tweet. Why is that not the same with the RTA's? What changed between the A, B, & C, besides the tweeter???


    Peerless tweets are great but the improvements to the crossovers alone make the B and C quite a bit better IMO.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    Gotcha. Thanks, dudes. :biggrin:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    Hey GlennDog, where are you located? I have a pair of 12C's in the house that I might let go.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    edited July 2012
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    Hey GlennDog, where are you located? I have a pair of 12C's in the house that I might let go.

    30 minutes north of beautiful downtown Windsor, Ontario, Canada . . . geographically funky . . . 20 minutes north of Day-tois i.e. Motown

    Those buggers would be tough to ship, especially with the Top Hat

    On another note, ever thought of parting ways with your mini 2s ?:rolleyes:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    GlennDog wrote: »
    30 minutes north of beautiful downtown Windsor, Ontario, Canada . . . geographically funky . . . 20 minutes north of Day-tois i.e. Motown

    Those buggers would be tough to ship, especially with the Top Hat

    lol, yea, that ain't gonna work. Good luck on the hunt!:biggrin:
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited July 2012
    the top hats just unplug.. You could just box the Xovers ect seperately :)
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    kcoc321 wrote: »
    the top hats just unplug.. You could just box the Xovers ect seperately :)

    The problem with shipping in the cost, not the logistics.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • BottomFeeder
    BottomFeeder Posts: 1,684
    edited July 2012
    Yep, I shipped a pair from LA to my joint & it cost me dearly.
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  • kcoc321
    kcoc321 Posts: 1,788
    edited July 2012
    Yeah shipping any big speaker is gunna be a logistics issue.
    I was just addressing how the tophats could be handled.
    they stil would need a pallet or a Polkie Express solution :)
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited July 2012
    kcoc321 wrote: »
    ...they stil would need a pallet or a Polkie Express solution :)

    Nah. I could ship them FedEx in non-original boxes without an issue. I have a lot of experience shipping large, fragile items.:wink:

    The logistics part is easy; it's the cost that's prohibitive for a speaker of this value... if they were worth a few grand, the shipping would be worth it, but they're not.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    edited July 2012
    I have Fam Damily in Cheverly, MD. . . . perhaps something could work out. Can your forward/send/PM the info/mods, if any?

    TY, Sir

    G
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