Adcom GFA-545... running hotter on left than right

nadams
nadams Posts: 5,877
edited July 2012 in Electronics
Hey all... long time, no post. Having a little concern about my GFA-545. During a recent listening session, I noticed that the left side of the amp was hotter than the right. Today, I set out to replicate it, and sure enough, the left side was running at 123*F, and the right side was at 108*F, as measured between the rows of grills, with my infrared gun.

Is this a gain issue? Some problem with the crossovers on the SDA's? I've never really noticed this before.
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited June 2012
    Check the bias in each channel also check dc offset. with age the caps dry out and start "shifting" and change values.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited July 2012
    That's normal as far as I know. My 545 always runs hotter on one side than on the other. This is true in a lot of amps, due to where the power supply is located...at least that's the way I understand it.
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited July 2012
    That's normal as far as I know. My 545 always runs hotter on one side than on the other. This is true in a lot of amps, due to where the power supply is located...at least that's the way I understand it.

    it can be oscillation or bias higher than other channel. just check bias to find out!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,570
    edited July 2012
    lanchile wrote: »
    Check the bias in each channel also check dc offset. with age the caps dry out and start "shifting" and change values.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited July 2012
    Exactly, likely a bias mis-match. My Parasound is a little warmer on the left as well, been meaning to adjust it.
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited July 2012
    Most Adcom amps are well know for having leaky caps, I would replace all those electrolytic caps for Panasonic fc 105 and then I would adjust Bias and dc offset.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited July 2012
    Been busy this week... haven't had a chance to look into it. I intended to recap it a while back, but found that those big cans are expensive... and it needs 4 of them.
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  • onebadchad
    onebadchad Posts: 364
    edited July 2012
    That always happens when I listen to AC/DC
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited July 2012
    That's normal as far as I know. My 545 always runs hotter on one side than on the other. This is true in a lot of amps, due to where the power supply is located...at least that's the way I understand it.

    Actually it's not normal *IF* the discrepancy is quite large. It has nothing to do with power supply location as with an amp like the 545 it's pretty much in the center. The issue is directly related to how each channel is biased. There amps are 20+ years old and parts are worn and out of tolerance. My guess is one side is running less bias through the tranny's, for whatever reason.

    It needs to be checked out.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,170
    edited July 2012
    lanchile wrote: »
    Most Adcom amps are well know for having leaky caps, I would replace all those electrolytic caps for Panasonic fc 105 and then I would adjust Bias and dc offset.

    Actually that is patently FALSE. Certain units (not all) of the 565 and 585 had manufacturer defective caps in *some units*, those models were fairly low selling units because of cost (as these were flagship models) and short production runs, so your statement is completely false when you say *most* and *well known*, it's not most and it's relatively unknown outside of some of the DIY websites.

    H9
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