ADVICE needed from HR and Engineers/ Professionals.......Negotiation skills 911

doggie750
doggie750 Posts: 1,160
edited June 2012 in The Clubhouse
Polks,
See this attached link thread I posted initially,
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?133577-Sup-POLKS....got-a-job-interview-tomorrow-that-I-ve-been-waiting-for-years

I've been in this situation b4, "SO close yet so FAR" The HR touched base with me yesterday, basically feeling me how interested I am to work for the company ??and I played the game.

My humbled reply was " It depends, I need to see the offer package first to cross reference on my current benefits/ base compensations that I have at work right now." Followed another series of questions, asked me if I have current other offers pending, I gently responded that I don't but I have a scheduled interview next week for a Biotech company. Lastly, asked me my benefits I have at work like 401k, stock options, bonus?..etc. As noted, I played the game...I boosted some of the factors of course LOL

She gave me positive information about why they like me and the opportunity they can offer within their firm. The discussion was smooth and fairly short ~20mins. She assured me that w/in 24hrs a verbal offer will be made to move forward. Once both parties agreed, offer letter will follow instantly.

HERE's the problem!!.. VERBAL offer sucks coz now the HR got the advantage and they can f**K u up. NOTE, not recorded as far as legality...ur screwed. Unforeseeable events can occur, HR can be involved in a accident (GOD forbid), jail, court...etc?.. (GETTING THIS). She slightly pointed out that the process is verbal then finalized it with the offer letter thus after the offer is documented?.negotiations is restricted.

I will try to convince her that I need legal offer letter on my hand to cross reference and review then I'll give her my answer... HOPE that works.....
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited June 2012
    I have always gotten a written offer for my jobs. I want to know my rights as well as there's. I believe it is in both parties best interest to do so.

    I would tell them that you agree to a tentative verbal agreement of terms until such time as a written agreement is signed by both parties.

    I would not start work until then.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited June 2012
    Also you can't give notice to your present job till you have a written letter in hand.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2012
    The verbal notice is a courtesy to let you know that you have the job with the condtions in the offer. The written offer is the contract, and should be the same as the verbal. If not then ask why. The written can always be ammended. Generally, the written is only valid for a short period of time.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited June 2012
    Definitely don't make any moves until you have the written offer in hand. Interesting that they're working so hard to find out what your current compensation package is before extending an offer. That sounds a little cheap to me, as though they don't have a standard package for your level of employment and they're going to give as little as they think they can get away with.

    My advice is to be courteous and professional, but firm in your dealings. That will also show them you're a serious person, worthy of their consideration.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,664
    edited June 2012
    I would follow though on your plan to have them send it in writing for review.

    When I accepted my new job about 5 months ago I had everything put in writing since I would be getting a lot of things most people do not get (at least right away) in my company, IE: extra vacation time, better bonus structure, current pay rate and future pay rate when certain certifications are completed...
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