Tube install question
txcoastal1
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Starting the tube rolling adventure in my first piece of tube equipment, a Melody Valve 101 preamp
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0311/melody_valve_hifi_pure_black_101.htm
Qty.(2)-101D tubes are output tubes (main signal amplifiers) one per channel. They are directly heated filamentary triodes that the amplifier uses.
Qty. (1)-5AR4 tube is a full wave rectifier. single
Qty. (4)-6SN7 tubes serve as a gain stage before the output tubes.two per channel
Here's my question, when installing I received 2 matched pairs of 6SN7's:
1st pair GM1#'s 3200 and GM#2's 3200
2nd pair GM1#'s 3300 and GM#2's 3300
Do I need to install each matched pair per channel or do I split up the match and install them horizontally across both channels
Thanks in advance
Ron
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0311/melody_valve_hifi_pure_black_101.htm
Qty.(2)-101D tubes are output tubes (main signal amplifiers) one per channel. They are directly heated filamentary triodes that the amplifier uses.
Qty. (1)-5AR4 tube is a full wave rectifier. single
Qty. (4)-6SN7 tubes serve as a gain stage before the output tubes.two per channel
Here's my question, when installing I received 2 matched pairs of 6SN7's:
1st pair GM1#'s 3200 and GM#2's 3200
2nd pair GM1#'s 3300 and GM#2's 3300
Do I need to install each matched pair per channel or do I split up the match and install them horizontally across both channels
Thanks in advance
Ron
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Driver tubes don't need to be matched like output tubes do. If you have a manual bias for the output tubes then that's not even necessary, IMO.
Of course the better matching the better and you don't want more than a 20% mis-match between triodes or pairs. But I can bet no one here can hear a difference between perfectly matched triodes and and a 10-15% difference in GM.
In the above example, it doesn't matter. I usually position the tubes where I can see the labels
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Thanks Brock
I had ordered some RCA VT231 from Brent Jessee and installed them last week, after about 15min. a heard a pop and then a bad hiss out of one my speakers, one of the tubes glass had cracked around the base. Then reinstalled the stock tubes and everything was fine. Then put my Shuguang treasures CV181 that THSmith sold me still all good.
Brent sent me a new one at no charge but wanted to make sure I didn't make some kind of newbie mistake and caused the problem.
Thanks again2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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