Dared 2000a
Oldfatdogs
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Just about to pick one up,any thoughts or suggestions before I do?New to tubes, I've been reading all the threads here I can find.Does anyone have a extra set of nos tubes they would like to sell?I am a bit leary of the bay until learn more about tube rolling.Any helpful links to learn about what replaces what in the tube world?Any input would help.Thanks Dan
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I have a pair of hand matched SEIMENS ( VERY SIMILER TO TELEFUNKEN SOUND). HAVE less than a 100 HOURS ON THEM JUST BROKEN IN. GOT THEM FROM BRETT JESSEE ON THE NET. Perfect in all ways. Incredible sound. Pm me with ?Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
Thanks I will pm you tomorrow, stepen out for a bit.Thanks Dan
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I can probably dig up something for you. I do have a Tungram (made in england) 5Z4G rectifier I can sell. It's a nice one and you need a nice rectifier, it make a very big difference. It's a spare or I'd keep it. Let me know. It's new, only used by me for about 5 hours to ensure it worked properly.
PM me anytime you're ready.
H("Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Dan,
Well I'll be a ......!! Steppin' up your game ?? Nice my friend, really nice. Your in for a treat for sure. Take H9's advice, he has extensive knowlege with these units and can be a good guide for tubes to use. Being new to tubes, your older ears will really dig this unit. Also, be carefull handling tubes as they can be like eggshells and wear gloves when handling. Looking forward to your thoughts.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Thanks Tony,curiosity got the best of me I'm looking forward to this.You guys are a bad influence but my tunes just keep getting better as I go.Thanks for always helping out.Dan
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I love my SL 2000A... Best audio purchase to date.
I've put in some Mullard 12at7 tubes and a Brimar 5z4g rectifier and I love the sound. I might try some new Pre tubes though, I thing the bottom end is still a little sloppy for me. -
I'm still waiting for Joe to get back to me,I sent some questions Sunday afternoon and have not heard back.I guess everyone needs time off .
Max,I have done alot of searches this Dared seems to tickle most everyone's fancy.
H9,I keep reading your holy grail thread by the time I get to page 8 I am back to being confused again.Sometimes the codes just get scrambled in my head. -
Dan, just ask me any specifics about the tubes, codes, etc. Even I need to review the info once in awhile because my head spins as well. I have learned to identify many tubes by just looking and studying the internals and in some cases the actual bottle, etc.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Thanks H9,I will get sooner or later. Thanks.Dan
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I still haven't heard back from Joe,so I sent an email to this web address.
http://www.dared.us/contact.htm
Does this address go to Joe also?
Again thank for your help.Dan -
Oldfatdogs wrote: »I'm still waiting for Joe to get back to me,I sent some questions Sunday afternoon and have not heard back.I guess everyone needs time off .
Max,I have done alot of searches this Dared seems to tickle most everyone's fancy.
H9,I keep reading your holy grail thread by the time I get to page 8 I am back to being confused again.Sometimes the codes just get scrambled in my head.
I'm tracking the sl-2000 on ebay and audiogon...once I saw pics of Heiney's I-30....I started heading down the rabbit-hole(lol) -
Pietro,I was fine for a long time with my old funky system I came here and have been trying new thing ever sense.The rabbit hole gets deep quick.
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We like to encourage folks to try new things Dan, thats how you discover certain things about your own likes and dislikes with audio. How far down that rabbit hole you go depends entirely on you.....and your wallet, maybe your wife's wallet too.....kids college fund, retirement plan......:cheesygrin::cheesygrin::cheesygrin:
Did ya grab yourself some good interconnects to hook up the Dared ? I'm laughing inside because I know once you hear tubes, your gonna become a tube addict and a whole nutha dimension in audio is going to open up for you.
BTW- I hope you don't take as long as Brock, aka H9, to do a review. I'd like to hear your thoughts before my 60th birthday.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Well said tonyb. LOL and crying too!Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
Tony,Im still waiting for Joe to get back to me on this one.Your the voice of reason in my head when I buy things now.Or are you the little devil on my shoulder going,DO it Dan Do it.:evil:I remember a while back you telling me you might try tubes.When I picked up the sda1cs I thought on the drive home,(this is going to cost me). What can I do to bring out the best in them.Tubes!!So here we go,I have the proper speakers the belles amp sounds good so now I need a two channel Pre.I do have to pick up some good interconnects too,I guess the audioquests are not going to do it.Every time I listen to the SDAs I get a big grin on my face as I melt into my chair.I'm having a blast,each new thing I try is an adventure down the rabbit hole.I suck at reviews but maby I will have the wife take a picture of my big cheesey grin with her new Ipad I used to butter her up with.
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Oldfatdogs wrote: »I will have the wife take a picture of my big cheesey grin with her new Ipad I used to butter her up with.
See now, thats how we old farts do it.:cheesygrin:
Doesn't have to be a magazine article Dan, just some first impressions, maybe whatever differences you notice in the sound....stuff like that. Let those tubes warm up a tad too before jammin' your tunes. Actually my friend, I am looking at the same pre and waiting for your observations. We both have ears in the same age catagory, older than dirt.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
See now, thats how we old farts do it.
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Any one interested in a Brand New in Box Dared sl200a. I have one for sale. I bought 2 of these from Joe for my buddy who didn't have a paypal account. He now only wants to keep one and wants me to return the other. Friends!!!!!
Anyway I'd offer to sell to a Polkie looking for one for $25 cheaper and actual shipping. New in box, receipt and warranty providedMain Rig:
Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3
Second Rig:
Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded) -
Be best to toss it in the FM chief.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Just noticed that.....my bad. Carry on....HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Update, I finely got with the seller.Ships tomorrow,I'm jazzed this is my first piece of New gear.
dhart86,A day late but thanks for thinking of me.
Tony B your up!:cheesygrin: -
I have been listening to this pre now for a few hours,what a difference it makes.It's a Beautiful thing,I cant believe changing from a receiver to a pre makes this much difference.I started out with some music that I know very well,the voices are more forward and clear.The bass is much better,you can feel it thumping in your chest the overall tone is just better.To me the Dared pre and Belles amp blend so well,I cant get this stupid grin off my face.Thanks to all who have recommended this pre it's everything you said it was.A big thank you to H9 for sharing and recommending tubes for this pre it made things much easier for a tube newbie.I don't think I will be making any changes for a while,except rolling tubes.This is going to be a blast,even the wife likes the difference it doesn't get any better than that!
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Welcome to the dared club.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
Thanks soundfreak you guys finely got me to drink the koolaid.
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Ya but it tastes good.Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable -
I also forgot to thank Brgman for sharing.
I think the wife really likes this pre,she just ordered 15 new cds.:eek: -
Great Dan.....your going to make me buy one too aren't cha ? Damn it....HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Hay Tony, your ears will thank you.:biggrin: