Cheeseheads

tonyb

Congrats for a job well done last night. Lets leave it at that shall we.

Start those beer Brats up on the grill, time to celebrate.

mrbigbluelight

Oh, Tony, Tony, Tony. :rolleyes:

Get this in before shutdown.

Tankman

State is in the Black for the first time in a long time.$90,million plus.My State Sucks when it comes too being in the Red.

Timothy Smith

I was not born here, but Wisconsin is my adopted home state.

I am extremely proud of Wisconsin for what happend yesterday (and not for the first time either).

drumminman

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Oh, Tony, Tony, Tony. :rolleyes:

Get this in before shutdown.

Amazing to me the collective amnesia about The Great Depression, the causes and how we pulled out of it.

cnh

I hate to say this, but no one really thinks much about Wisconsin except the media which loves this left/right, right/left chasm that has torn our nation into TWO. And shows that there is NO end in sight. There are no 'real' majorities in the U.S. and each party is "deathly" afraid of the other winning by a few percentage points. American politics? What happened to us? A nation "united" not "divided". We can't agree about "anything" anymore.


cnh

dkg999

What was not heavily noted is the war between the private and public unions in WI and why a significant amount of union members voted to keep the current governor.

cnh

dkg999 wrote: »

What was not heavily noted is the war between the private and public unions in WI and why a significant amount of union members voted to keep the current governor.

I guess that would be interesting if I hadn't spent a lifetime witnessing how well Americans vote against their own interests most of the time? Voting is not a simple phenomenon in which people's life, education, and propaganda have no effect. I remember the "silent majority". I remember union members in Pa. voting for Reagan as legions were losing their jobs? My father's company went from employing 3500 to less than 600 in a few years (he was lucky to have retired in that period). In some ways that area of Pa. never really recovered but just slid into the two income family that almost made as much as the one income family before it.

Oh well, politics, are politics, are politics. They're mine and they're yours. And they're rarely of "one flavor". lol

But, isn't it great when one's beliefs are reinforced. Real politics are depressing. Read Max Weber's "Politics as a Vocation" for a better understanding of that.

cnh

hochpt21

Congrats for a job well done last night

I thought this thread was about the egg my brewers laid against your cubs, Tony.

At least that's what I'd rather talk about anyway.

Sooooo glad that 4 out of every 5 commercials per break will not be mudslinging ads when I go home tonight.

cstmar01

agreed I hate all stupid annoying commercials...even after last night they were still running and I wanted to throw my computer out the window..

and I still got a kick out of the guy on CNN that claimed all was lost and started crying about it. Guess it was the end to democracy as we know it :rolleyes:

cnh

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Oh, Tony, Tony, Tony. :rolleyes:

Get this in before shutdown.

Now that would be "funny" if it weren't a real part of our history?

Cake for everyone! Actually, I do like cake, so I'm going to go have some.

cnh

Timothy Smith

cnh wrote: »

I guess that would be interesting if I hadn't spent a lifetime witnessing how well Americans vote against their own interests most of the time? Voting is not a simple phenomenon in which people's life, education, and propaganda have no effect. I remember the "silent majority". I remember union members in Pa. voting for Reagan as legions were losing their jobs? My father's company went from employing 3500 to less than 600 in a few years (he was lucky to have retired in that period). In some ways that area of Pa. never really recovered but just slid into the two income family that almost made as much as the one income family before it.

Oh well, politics, are politics, are politics. They're mine and they're yours. And they're rarely of "one flavor". lol

But, isn't it great when one's beliefs are reinforced. Real politics are depressing. Read Max Weber's "Politics as a Vocation" for a better understanding of that.

cnh

Thanks for deciding what other people's "best interests" are for them. It saves so much time and effort on our part, and we would probably chose incorrectly (according to you) anyway.

Just curious, what state do you actually reside in besides the whole "Lunar Module" thing?

Then we can see what the current overall politics of that state are, what direction it is going in, how things are working there, and then you can tell us if you agree.

cnh

Timothy Smith wrote: »

Thanks for deciding what other people's "best interests" are for them. It saves so much time and effort on our part, and we would probably chose incorrectly (according to you) anyway.

Just curious, what state do you actually reside in besides the whole "Lunar Module" thing?

Then we can see what the current overall politics of that state are, what direction it is going in, how things are working there, and then you can tell us if you agree.

Sorry you misinterpret me. I don't decide "anything" and never have. I've lived a life of quiet and disillusioned abandonment, always realizing that the "people" (regardless of who they are) are "always" right. And I am "usually" wrong! In fact, I've been "wrong" so many times I wonder why they even let me "vote"! lol

See, I agree with you! Or as Dr. Pangloss would say,"This is the best of all possible worlds!"

cnh

polkfarmboy

drumminman wrote: »

Amazing to me the collective amnesia about The Great Depression, the causes and how we pulled out of it.

We pulled out of it because we had infinite resources, now we dont .........ffffffffffuuuuuuu.............

Timothy Smith

polkfarmboy wrote: »

We pulled out of it because we had infinite resources, now we dont .........ffffffffffuuuuuuu.............

You could make a good case that we got into the Great Depression because of investor speculation on stocks without real value, and the assumption that values would always go up with no correction.

Not unlike the "Tech collapse" and "housing value collapse" that tanked our economy, or at least contributed. How many of us bought in on the Facebook IPO?

We now have governments (Federal, State, or Local) spending more (and foolishly too) than they "take in" with taxation. Their government solution is, of course, usually more taxation. Gov. Walker tried to reduce spending, or at least bring it in line with revenue and it worked. Look at the current financial situation right next door in Illinois to see how well the alternative, which is "do nothing" is working.

You could also make a case that we got out of the Great Depression with WW2. 60 million + deaths seems like a bad idea to me.

Tankman

^^^^What he said.Lets not forget Ford had too...ah..i mean we had too bail out NY back in the late 70's with $300 Billion that Ford did not want too do.That was the start of what we have now to deal with.

Timothy Smith

Tankman wrote: »

^^^^What he said.Lets not forget Ford had too...ah..i mean we had too bail out NY back in the late 70's with $300 Billion that Ford did not want too do.That was the start of what we have now to deal with.

.....Sigh....which goes a long way in answering the age-old question: "why do you guys like to sit in the basement listening to music from 30 years ago on old stereo equipment?"

Tankman

@Timothy Smith...LMAO!..Made my day Bro!^^^.Lolo.

obieone

Don't worry. The NLRB will save the WI unions, just like they did in SC:evil:

codyc1ark

tonyb wrote: »

Congrats for a job well done last night. Lets leave it at that shall we.

Start those beer Brats up on the grill, time to celebrate.

3) The discussion of politics and religion is irrelevant to good audio and is, therefore, not allowed on this forum.

F1nut

Here's a damn good idea....

Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

chumlie

codyc1ark wrote: »

3) The discussion of politics and religion is irrelevant to good audio and is, therefore, not allowed on this forum.

Finally, the voice of reason. Ok Rick88 too.

txcoastal1

rick88 wrote: »

did somebody say cheesehead??
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<<<<<<<this cheesehead for president

bobsauto49

On Wis. on Wis. On Wis, ect ect ect!

cstmar01

Rick88 wrote: »

Did somebody say cheesehead??

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women do not look like that here! add about 100lbs, some cheese in one hand and a beer in the other and now you have a WI girl.

bobsauto49

^My Wife and I take complete offense to that!^ She drinks Busch Light,eats cheddar cheese,and is about 5'7" 130lbs! And was born and raised in WI!

cstmar01

bobsauto49 wrote: »

^My Wife and I take complete offense to that!^ She drinks Busch Light,eats cheddar cheese,and is about 5'7" 130lbs! And was born and raised in WI!

Busch Light? Come on, you gotta be drinking the Beast. Or get some PBR and drink some tall boys.

and I would never put a woman's weight on the internet, they will find you. :eek:

bobsauto49

You must be a Democrat! Meaning you dont agree with free will!:eek: I like red,you like blue! GREAT! Lets move on!
By the way; Busch Light is one of the top 3 selling Beer's in WI! Get with the program! Maybee u like Scotch on the rocks,with yer pinky up!:biggrin:

Tankman

^^^^See what she looks like...My wife looks nothing like her...lolo.:razz:

tonyb

hochpt21 wrote: »

I thought this thread was about the egg my brewers laid against your cubs, Tony.

At least that's what I'd rather talk about anyway.

Sooooo glad that 4 out of every 5 commercials per break will not be mudslinging ads when I go home tonight.

Man, don't even get me started on our pathetic Cubs....and their owners. A big high five too on no more commercials for awhile too. I hate those things, always just shy of the truth from either side.

Politics...audio ? Those protesters up there had some nice JBL pro speakers running. Had to make sure all those state elected officials heard them when they took off to hide in Illinois.:cheesygrin:

gp4jesus

cstmar01 wrote: »

...and I still got a kick out of the guy on CNN that claimed all was lost and started crying about it. Guess it was the end to democracy as we know it :rolleyes:

Someone fill me in.
Been extremely busy the past few days. Just heard on GNN radio "...that the Wisconsin governor's race negatively impacted the White house."

How's that? How could it?