BAT VK-500 In The House

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Oh, and its way better than that PASS stuff!:lol:

    RT1

    I heard Nelson was closing up shop and working on his Russian to go work for Viktor and Vladimir. The Pass Labs thing isn't working out.........:razz::cheesygrin:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited May 2012
    LOL....Teds description of Vladimir's accent is spot on. I called him up once to ask him some questions, you just can't help but like the guy. I'd love to hang with him on a barstool and hear him when he's drunk.

    All in all, that Bat 500 is a keeper, hence the reason you don't see them up for sale too often. For SS amplification, it doesn't get much better than that. Of course there are still those who claim you won't hear a big difference between SS amps, nice to see yet another member can prove them wrong. Enjoy man, and I'll call first dibbs should you decide to move up to the 600.:cheesygrin:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I heard Nelson was closing up shop and working on his Russian to go work for Viktor and Vladimir. The Pass Labs thing isn't working out.........:razz::cheesygrin:

    H9

    lol.:biggrin:

    I still want to get my ears on a Pass amp... x-150, 250, or that Aleph. One day.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    ...Of course there are still those who claim you won't hear a big difference between SS amps, nice to see yet another member can prove them wrong. Enjoy man, and I'll call first dibbs should you decide to move up to the 600.:cheesygrin:

    In my experience, the differences can range fro subtle to dramatic. I've used (4) different solid state power amps in the main rig over the last year. They all sounded different.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,499
    edited May 2012
    Congrats on your new amp! Another + for BAT service. Victor is more prim and proper to speak with while Vlad is more of a 'hey, what's happenin' kind of guy.:cheesygrin:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    In my experience, the differences can range fro subtle to dramatic. I've used (4) different solid state power amps in the main rig over the last year. They all sounded different.

    There isn't a single piece of gear, cable, tube or capacitor that I haven't heard some sort of difference between. Like you said, some are subtle and some are dramatic.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited May 2012
    Sweet System!!!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited May 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    LOL....Teds description of Vladimir's accent is spot on. I called him up once to ask him some questions, you just can't help but like the guy. I'd love to hang with him on a barstool and hear him when he's drunk.

    Being Russian I'd bet he could handle his vodka well. You may be the one entertaining him. :cool:
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  • Drjoel
    Drjoel Posts: 7
    edited May 2012
    Sweet setup!

    I would like to purchase the Parasound HCA-2200mkii. Please let me know if it becomes available
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited May 2012
    Drjoel wrote: »
    Sweet setup!

    I would like to purchase the Parasound HCA-2200mkii. Please let me know if it becomes available

    You forgot your spam link.
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  • Drjoel
    Drjoel Posts: 7
    edited May 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    You forgot your spam link.

    No spam, my hunt for a hca 2200ii led me to this thread. I cant send a pm til my post count is ten.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited May 2012
    Understood....the forum gets spammed constantly

    Drjoel
    You may want to also, present a post in the wanted section to be seen.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    Drjoel wrote: »
    Sweet setup!

    I would like to purchase the Parasound HCA-2200mkii. Please let me know if it becomes available

    Thanks, Doc! The 2200ii isn't going anywhere for now.
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • Drjoel
    Drjoel Posts: 7
    edited May 2012
    No problem, please keep me in mind. Got the funds waiting in my paypal account. I was the sore loser in the ebay auction that you mentioned.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    Drjoel wrote: »
    No problem, please keep me in mind. Got the funds waiting in my paypal account. I was the sore loser in the ebay auction that you mentioned.

    I'll keep you in mind. I have a whole Parasound setup (HCA-2200ii, P/LD-2000, DAC-2000 Ultra, and CDP-1000), that's on the chopping block right now. It's powering a secondary 2-channel rig, and it sounds excellent, but I hardly ever use it, so I'm thinking it might be overkill. I might just use cheaper components in there, and then off the Parasound stuff to fund tweaks for my main rig. The only thing holding me back at this point is that I like having all the good Paraound stuff as a backup for the components in the main rig. If anything blows up or has to go to the shop, I've got a quality piece to stick in its place. hmmm...
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • Drjoel
    Drjoel Posts: 7
    edited May 2012
    Thats a really nice back up! I have a P/LD 1100, music fidelity phono, and two HCA-800ii's that I want to replace with your 2200ii. I really like these parasound products :cool:
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited May 2012
    so Ben any more thoughts on how you find the sound to be on the unit?

    Ever think about getting another and running them as monos?

    If you were closer I would offer to bring by my BAT pre so you could hear the combo together. BAT with maggies sounds really good IMO. I heard the VK600 monos on the 3.7s and loved it.
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,766
    edited May 2012
    I'd love to add a large BAT SS amp to my system some day. For now, I'll have to settle for having my VK-30 preamp mated with my Halo A21. I haven't dealt with Vlad, but Victor was very helpful when I first bought the preamp. He helped me upgrade the preamp to be remote (Harmony) compatible without having to fork out the entire upgrade price or having to ship it back to him. He also made some great tube recommendations and gave me full schematics for the preamp.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    so Ben any more thoughts on how you find the sound to be on the unit?

    Ever think about getting another and running them as monos?

    If you were closer I would offer to bring by my BAT pre so you could hear the combo together. BAT with maggies sounds really good IMO. I heard the VK600 monos on the 3.7s and loved it.

    Man, this thing keeps impressing me. If I had to pick one word, it would be: "easy". The music just flows out effortlessly; it handles everything I throw at it easily, it's easy to listen to, and it's easy on the eyes. Just plain easy... that is, except to move!:eek:

    My favorite attribute is its open, airy top-end. It's got the most articulate highs of any amp I've tried, but it's also one of the least trebely amps I've tried. Great combo for my ears. It's kind of like how LSi's are very detailed, yet laid back. It's extremely clear, but without being bright at all. The notes are so well separated from each other, they don't have to be over-emphasized to be heard comprehensively.

    Warm mid-range and powerful, controlled bass are other big pluses.

    The airy top-end is what I'm digging the most. It really reminds me of when I first added a tubed preamp to my rig... but this thing isn't tubed. It's making me very curious about how a good tubed power amp would sound...


    I have no desire to get another to run them mono at this point. As is, it drives my speakers quite easily.:wink:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    billbillw wrote: »
    ... For now, I'll have to settle for having my VK-30 preamp mated with my Halo A21...

    Nice combo! I bet that sounds great.:cool:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    Man, this thing keeps impressing me. If I had to pick one word, it would be: "easy". The music just flows out effortlessly; it handles everything I throw at it easily, it's easy to listen to, and it's easy on the eyes. Just plain easy... that is, except to move!:eek:

    My favorite attribute is its open, airy top-end. It's got the most articulate highs of any amp I've tried, but it's also one of the least trebely amps I've tried. Great combo for my ears. It's kind of like how LSi's are very detailed, yet laid back. It's extremely clear, but without being bright at all. The notes are so well separated from each other, they don't have to be over-emphasized to be heard comprehensively.

    Warm mid-range and powerful, controlled bass are other big pluses.

    The airy top-end is what I'm digging the most. It really reminds me of when I first added a tubed preamp to my rig... but this thing isn't tubed. It's making me very curious about how a good tubed power amp would sound...


    I have no desire to get another to run them mono at this point. As is, it drives my speakers quite easily.:wink:

    Welcome to upper echelon amplification, sounds like the attributes I fell in love with when I got the Alpeh.

    Keep on enjoying

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Welcome to upper echelon amplification, sounds like the attributes I fell in love with when I got the Alpeh.

    Keep on enjoying

    H9

    There's one (alpha 30) on the Gon. Wonder how 30 watts would sound on my LSIm's ?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    There's one (alpha 30) on the Gon. Wonder how 30 watts would sound on my LSIm's ?

    Probably fantastic :smile:, unless you are trying to fill a very large listening space.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Welcome to upper echelon amplification, sounds like the attributes I fell in love with when I got the Alpeh.

    Keep on enjoying

    H9

    Thank you, sir! Glad to be here.:biggrin:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited May 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    There's one (alpha 30) on the Gon. Wonder how 30 watts would sound on my LSIm's ?

    Only one way to find out...
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
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