? on new i7/i5 pc build for video/photo editing
bikerboy
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Hi all video editing computer gurus,
I am about to build a new pc for photo and video work. I read the new ivy bridge 3rd gen intel cpus are very good so will go that way. It will be wired to the net and be used for the usual stuff also. I got a new Sony nex-7 camera that shoots 24mp stills and it does stereo hd video very well. Processing raw, ect the i3 is a bit slow. I will get lightroom 4 and ps elements and either premier or sony vega or similar for video editing. I thought I would use the integrated graphics for now. Will think about a ssd later. The pc I think would be best is:
I7-3770 proc
Asus P8Z77-LK or LX
4-8GB ddr3-1600=32GB total
Will reuse LG IPS 23" monitor, ps, BR read/dvd burner, 2-2tb hds, atx case, windows 7 64 bit from the i3 system.
Any advise on the motherboard, ect would be great. WiDi to the livingroom tv might be useful but need to know more. Dont think overclocking is needed but let me know. I dont game at all. Looking for a setup that will be good for years, not to save a few bucks. Could use the i5-3570k to save about $100. The real need is for video editing so best speed is most important. Probably buy from Tigerdirect or Frys. Looks like the 3 things are about $680. Thanks.
I am about to build a new pc for photo and video work. I read the new ivy bridge 3rd gen intel cpus are very good so will go that way. It will be wired to the net and be used for the usual stuff also. I got a new Sony nex-7 camera that shoots 24mp stills and it does stereo hd video very well. Processing raw, ect the i3 is a bit slow. I will get lightroom 4 and ps elements and either premier or sony vega or similar for video editing. I thought I would use the integrated graphics for now. Will think about a ssd later. The pc I think would be best is:
I7-3770 proc
Asus P8Z77-LK or LX
4-8GB ddr3-1600=32GB total
Will reuse LG IPS 23" monitor, ps, BR read/dvd burner, 2-2tb hds, atx case, windows 7 64 bit from the i3 system.
Any advise on the motherboard, ect would be great. WiDi to the livingroom tv might be useful but need to know more. Dont think overclocking is needed but let me know. I dont game at all. Looking for a setup that will be good for years, not to save a few bucks. Could use the i5-3570k to save about $100. The real need is for video editing so best speed is most important. Probably buy from Tigerdirect or Frys. Looks like the 3 things are about $680. Thanks.
Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server
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When it comes to video editing, RAM is your friend. I would run 12GB min if it were my machine.
Also get a dedicated GPU. Not sure what to suggest for your application as I've been out of the hobby for a while but nVidia made superb GPU's for graphics/editing. Not sure if ATI has caught up/surpassed them on that front. -
Make sure to use 64-bit Windows 7 Professional & or Windows XP to address any more than 4GB or RAM BTW. The professional versions have less media bells and whistles (no media center). ALso, disk speed is critical with video editing. use a separate boot drive and media drive at minumum, try to stay away from an external USB drive for media storage, as the 480Mbps speed still lags a bit compared to SATA or SAS speeds. I would invest in a 1TB RAID 0 (2 1TB drives striped together) use either the onboard RAID controller (if the bpard has one)... optimally use an add-in PCI-e card from HighPoint or Adaptec that supports at least 4 drives. Drives are fairly inexpensive and the more drives you add to the RAID (2 at least) , the faster your editor will perform reads & writes to disk. I used to build video editing systems that supported NewTek Video Toaster hardware/software... which are like 10k+ plus.. but the principles for video editing are the same... faster and more disks the better, and dont use your video editiing machine for much more than just that.. video editing. Need more advice.. ask I will help however I can.SDA SRS 3.1TL, Adcom GFP710 (preamp), GFA5400 amplifier, Pro-Ject TT
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That was the case with XP, but not with Windows 7. I can personally confirm that my Windows 7 x64 Pro has all the same media center features that the Ultimate version has, including Media Center.Make sure to use 64-bit Windows 7 Professional & or Windows XP to address any more than 4GB or RAM BTW. The professional versions have less media bells and whistles (no media center). -
Correct, it just isnt in your face like it is in the Home versions.SDA SRS 3.1TL, Adcom GFP710 (preamp), GFA5400 amplifier, Pro-Ject TT
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I'm not gonna give the usual line about 'Macs are so much better for video or photo editing' because it's so overplayed, but that's at least an option I'd look at if you haven't already.
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Intel released a Thunderbolt USB 3.0 board today. May be worth looking at.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57440332-1/intels-latest-desktop-board-finally-thunderbolt-and-usb-3.0-coexist/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title>
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When it comes to video editing, RAM is your friend. I would run 12GB min if it were my machine.
OP is using 4 8GB for a total of 32 GB memory so should be good to go there2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer. -
What software are you going to use for editing?
You may already be aware of this but some software limit there "None Pro" versions to only using 1 or 2 gb of ram. This is to get you to buy the more expensive "Pro" versions of there software. So if you are going to buy all that memory you might want to verify your software will use it. -
OP is using 4 8GB for a total of 32 GB memory so should be good to go there
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"I will get lightroom 4 and ps elements and either premier or sony vega or similar for video editing."
I will look into the software about the ram usage. I may get only 16GB of ram and get a ssd and use the 2-2tb hd in a raid 0 setup. All the motherboards I am interested in have raid included.
"Intel released a Thunderbolt USB 3.0 board today"
I dont know about thunderbolt, will need to look into that more. That MB is at least $150 (about 2x)more than the Asus I am thinking of. The Asus mb are supposed to have something up their sleeve when it comes to bus speed. If thunderbolt becomes an issue I could just upgrade the mb in the future.
"Make sure to use 64-bit Windows 7 Professional & or Windows XP "
I am going to use Windows 7 64 home which can use up to 32gb of ram.
'Macs are so much better for video or photo editing' "
Why would that be? Can I reuse any of my other parts in building a mac? Can a mac cost about $700 at this i7-3770 prformance level? Not really!
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This is about photo editing but thats what I will use this pc for the most. The integrated HD 4000 graphics is supposed to work very well for video encoding but I dont know all the aspects of what is needed. Quick sync is very good.
Thanks for all the comments. It helps a lot. I need to look into thunderbolt, integrated graphics vs stand alone. I hope to get this going this weekend.
Proposed system now:
I7-3770 $320
Asus P8Z77-V LX or LK $140
4-8GB ram $240
ssd $?Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server -
Hi,
Heres what I went with from Newegg:
1 x ($319.99) Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770 $319.99
1 x ($209.99) ASUS P8Z77-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $209.99
1 x ($128.99) Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2CCA 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Transfer Kit $128.99
1 x ($124.99) GeIL Evo Two 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model GET316GB1600C9DC $124.99
1 x ($11.99) Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $11.99
Shipping and Handling:$0.00
Total Amount: $765.95
Everything I read said 16GB ram was enough and finding compatible 32GB ram was $450. Ouch! I hope the Asus board was a good choice. Hit and miss on the issues posted online. Since 90% of the stuff I will use it for is photo editing/processing it will be a very fast machine. Only with the video editing will I wish for faster, at least thats what I expect. Hope to have it up and running soon. Thanks for the advise and I'll post after its running.Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server -
Looks good are you going to use the on-board graphics card?2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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I would try to pick up a mid-grade video card, they typically use ddr4 or DDR5 ram which runs at higher speed than the other ram you would be running. You should be able to pick up a decent one pretty cheap...
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I dont know what video editing sw I will use so I will wait on the gc. Jer War-What is a mid grade card you like? The best one for Sony Vegas is $500. I am thinking Sony vegas but need to read more. I could go with Adobe premier also. For photo sw I will get Adobe Lightroom4 and PS elements for raw conversion/editing.Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server
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You're joking right? You took that quote COMPLETELY out of context and you know it. Unbelievable"'Macs are so much better for video or photo editing' "
Why would that be? Can I reuse any of my other parts in building a mac? Can a mac cost about $700 at this i7-3770 prformance level? Not really! -
I purchased the vegas movie studio and like it but it only uses 2g of ram which causes it to be slow. I was thinking of upgrading to vegas pro 11 last fall when it came out but then the reviews started coming out about all of the bugs it had. I believe most of them were around the interaction of the software to render using the video card memory. I have not checked in a while to see if many of the issues have been resolved. At this point I am waiting on vegas pro 12. A lot of info on there forums that is worth reading: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/default.aspI dont know what video editing sw I will use so I will wait on the gc. Jer War-What is a mid grade card you like? The best one for Sony Vegas is $500. I am thinking Sony vegas but need to read more. I could go with Adobe premier also. For photo sw I will get Adobe Lightroom4 and PS elements for raw conversion/editing. -
Actually a graphics card isn't necessary for video editing. It can help some if the particular software you are using utilizes DirectX or OpenGL, but the bulk of your processing will still be done by the CPU. Wait until you figure out what software you will be using, then check out the forums for that particular software to see what people recommend. I'm betting they'll probably tell you to save your money.
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That is what I am thinking for now. I will get the SW and see how well the igp works with the specific programs. The i7-3770 uses the HD4000 integrated graphics so it should be very good.
"the graphics engine in Intel HD Graphics 4000 includes Microsoft * DirectX* 11 support" also "Intel? Quick Sync Video" so we'll see what it can do.
I may add a second ssd for the 64gb ram that is avaliable with Intel? Smart Response Technology that is on the motherboard I will be using. But I dont know because is requires a raid setup also. I need to read more. I have till friday to get it worked out.
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The i7 is up and running. Win 7 sure is easy compared xp to get loaded up. Need to do some video edits and see what its able to do. Maybe tonight.Main system: Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 w/ Pioneer 42" plazma-> Polk LSiM 703 w/Tivo, Marantz tuner, BRPTT: Nothingham Spacedeck-> Pioneer PL L1000 linear arm-> Soundsmith DL 103R-> SUT->Bottlehead ErosDigital: I3 PC w/ Jriver playing flac -> Sonore Ultrarendu -> Twisted Pair Audio ESS 9028 w/ Mercury IVY Vinyl rips: ESI Juli@24/192-> i3 PC server
