New 2012 Panasonic Plasma's

leroyjr1
leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
edited May 2012 in Electronics
Looks like Panasonic has finally met/beat Pioneer Elites black levels. With the added extra features I can finally see Kuro owners finally having the urge to sell their sets. Even the ST series has bested the last year VT models black levels.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Looks like Panasonic has finally met/beat Pioneer Elites black levels. With the added extra features I can finally see Kuro owners finally having the urge to sell their sets. Even the ST series has bested the last year VT models black levels.

    Yeah, I read that a couple places. Still went with a 60" ST30 from last year. It will be interesting to see if the black levels stay consistent long term as most of the places doing reviews have the sets for a short time.
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2012
    How do you tell if its a 2012 model ? Am i correct thinking the T30's are last years model and the T50's are 2012 ?
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    chumlie wrote: »
    How do you tell if its a 2012 model ? Am i correct thinking the T30's are last years model and the T50's are 2012 ?

    Yup... as long as it ends with 50 your looking at a 2012 model. You cant find the 30's online for the most part (in the large sized I should ad). Trust me I looked :smile:.

    ST50 is the lowest line
    GT50 is the midrange
    VT50 is the no hold bared panel
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2012
    Yup... as long as it ends with 50 your looking at a 2012 model. You cant find the 30's online for the most part (in the large sized I should ad). Trust me I looked :smile:.

    ST50 is the lowest line
    GT50 is the midrange
    VT50 is the no hold bared panel
    I'm looking at Amazon now and don't see any shortage of the 30's. Debating going with last years GT30 or this years ST50.
  • skipf
    skipf Posts: 694
    edited May 2012
    I own two Panny plasmas, but my next set will be LED. Those plasmas are mini furnaces.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    chumlie wrote: »
    I'm looking at Amazon now and don't see any shortage of the 30's. Debating going with last years GT30 or this years ST50.

    I was looking at the 60-65 inch models. Thats where it was hard to find em.

    If it was me since the GT30 and ST30 models are close in picture quality (THX mode being absent in the ST30) I would look at a ST30 if you can find one in the line you want.

    Otherwise I would get whichever model (GT30 or ST50) that was larger in size. But thats just my .02.

    P.S. I based my decision after lots of reading off Cnet's website as well as user reviews. I am aware lots of folks say the GT30 is better. I also looked at both sets in person at a local hi-fi store and played with settings and decided I was ok with the ST30. YMMV
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited May 2012
    skipf wrote: »
    I own two Panny plasmas, but my next set will be LED. Those plasmas are mini furnaces.

    The newer panny's run much cooler.
  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited May 2012
    Thanks for the input Ender. Never heard of heat problems, i have a 60'' LG plasma and never noticed.
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2012
    I must say I'm extremely pleased (as is the rest of my family) with the ST 65" 3D I picked up a few months ago from Sears. I had a ski mask on when I bought it...the price was that good. And in all honesty I looked at all models & there might be some minor differences but there was nothing major enough for me to consider the GT/VT models. Stunning picture!!!! They're all good...go with the best deal you can make on the size you want, of course bigger is better in my book.
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  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited May 2012
    Well... now that the 50s are out, it might be a good time to find a VT30 for a good price. I am after the 24p capability. I think only the VT series plasmas have it.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    I must say I'm extremely pleased (as is the rest of my family) with the ST 65" 3D I picked up a few months ago from Sears. I had a ski mask on when I bought it...the price was that good. And in all honesty I looked at all models & there might be some minor differences but there was nothing major enough for me to consider the GT/VT models. Stunning picture!!!! They're all good...go with the best deal you can make on the size you want, of course bigger is better in my book.

    Yup, I almost picked up the same model. Sams Club had the 65" for 1599 but with sales tax it was another 120 which was too much over my budget (orignally 1200 stretched to 1500).

    I picked up the 60" for under 1500 shipped to my door. Delivery tomorrow :smile:. Gonna blow my 56" DLP out the water :smile:.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2012
    Yup, I almost picked up the same model. Sams Club had the 65" for 1599 but with sales tax it was another 120 which was too much over my budget (orignally 1200 stretched to 1500).

    I picked up the 60" for under 1500 shipped to my door. Delivery tomorrow :smile:. Gonna blow my 56" DLP out the water :smile:.

    I guess I was in the right place at the right time because I picked mine up for $1199.00 (brand new in box). I couldn't resist!!! Congrats & enjoy your Plasma...you're gonna love it!!! Now with your new LSi/FX surrounds you'll be living large.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2012
    skipf wrote: »
    I own two Panny plasmas, but my next set will be LED. Those plasmas are mini furnaces.


    I'd assume that like sweet sounding tube audio gear............the extra heat is a price worth paying for superior performance. As long as plasmas are made, I won't be buying any large flat panel TVs in any other category. Now, to take the tube/audio "leap" next !! :lol:
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited May 2012
    I have a Panny plasma and it is a very good display. Not sure what model I have but I think it's a '10 or model from last yr as well. Bought the 60" model and no complaints of heat with it though.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2012
    I guess I was in the right place at the right time because I picked mine up for $1199.00 (brand new in box). I couldn't resist!!! Congrats & enjoy your Plasma...you're gonna love it!!! Now with your new LSi/FX surrounds you'll be living large.

    Yeah, I had to wait for my bonus to show up which was after everyone sold off their stock at firesale prices (not that 1500 for a 60" TV is bad). I was left with very few internet only pickings so the prices started to inch back up.

    What vendor did you get yours from out of curiosity?
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2012
    Yeah, I had to wait for my bonus to show up which was after everyone sold off their stock at firesale prices (not that 1500 for a 60" TV is bad). I was left with very few internet only pickings so the prices started to inch back up.

    What vendor did you get yours from out of curiosity?

    I walked into Sears & there she was...just begging me to take her home. So home she went!!! LOL!!!
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited May 2012
    I think I mentioned in passing in another thread a week or so ago, but my old Hitachi 57" RPTV red convergence iC chip went out. After researching what it would take to repair, I decided a new TV was in order. Took apart the old TV and took it to the dump.

    We started knowing what we needed (a flat panel 60"-65" TV, the bigger the better) and understanding what our habits and preferences are (very sparse usage, primarily Blu-Ray movies, generally at night). I began the TV research since I was out of TV market for a while. Stats, advantages/disadvantages, and reviews. Went to the bigbox stores and looked at the available products and brands and came away with three alternatives:
    60" Samsung LED 7000 series
    65" Panasonic Plasma ST series
    65" Samsung Plasma D8000 series

    For our needs, Panasonic won out. We pre-ordered from our companies "Employee Purchase Program" the 65ST50, even though now it seems that we didn't really save any money compared to other retailers. But we are still waiting for shipment which is expected May 15 or 16. Another two weeks. Paid somewhere between $2400-$2500 after tax.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,572
    edited May 2012
    Panny GT plasma here, what heat?
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited May 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    see Kuro owners finally having the urge to sell their sets.

    As a Kuro owner myself, I need to see these new Panny sets in a proper environment. Could these possibly be the Kuro killers?:surprised:
  • ibewbrother
    ibewbrother Posts: 186
    edited May 2012
    I think I agree with the older models being heaters. I thought it was all in my old Onkyo... but, even with the Pioneer it still gets warm in my room. I guess it's time for an upgrade....I was in sears the other week and thought they had some good looking pannys...I figured they were all lower models....but I just cruised through to look.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited May 2012
    Sears usually carry the lower models in store.
  • mystik610
    mystik610 Posts: 699
    edited May 2012
    How do the new Panny sets compare to the Sharp Elite Pro's? I like the Elite Pro's, but they're expensive, and its hard to find a properly set-up Plasma in a store these days.
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