New Pre-Amp Coming Soon!

Drenis
Drenis Posts: 2,871
edited May 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
I'm quite thrilled about this so I felt the need to share. I came across a ad for a Parasound 2100 Pre and 2125 Amp in FLAWLESS condition. They are 2009 stock from a former Parasound dealer. The gear has less than 10 hours on it and it really shows. Been sitting indoors since then and the fella is cleaning out his home. he has tons of gear from being in the hobby. I'll be stealing....err picking these both up tomorrow for a great price. The seller wouldn't separate the package so I'll buy both and unload the amp.

To summarize:

- New pre in the rig tomorrow
- Parasound 2100
- :cheesygrin::cheesygrin::cheesygrin::cheesygrin:

I couldn't pass on this as this Pre has remote AND HT bypass so I can use the pre for music ONLY while allowing my AVR (Pio Elite VSX-23) to handle all the inputs for gaming consoles and our cable TV.

Did you read that H9? NO MORE AVR AS MY PRE.

That is all. :cheesygrin:
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2012
    Sweet, nice preamp.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited April 2012
    Great pre for the bucks.Still have one i use for the HT bypass.
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  • Tankman
    Tankman Posts: 419
    edited April 2012
    What would you take for the amp?Would you ship?
  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited April 2012
    Congrats. I've been eyeballing that preamp for a while now.
  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited April 2012
    congrats! let us know what you think about that preamp. I was thinking about that one for a while but went a different rout and was always curious about it.
  • brianle
    brianle Posts: 572
    edited April 2012
    congrats! let us know how it sounds comparing to your AVR as a pre
  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited April 2012
    Enjoy your new gear.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2012
    Congrats, I think you are going to be pleaseantly surprised.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Congrats, I think you are going to be pleaseantly surprised.

    H9

    If I don't hear a difference for the better, you'll be the first to hear about it :razz:
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2012
    Congrats on a good score.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • Denon Frank
    Denon Frank Posts: 130
    edited April 2012
    You'll be happy with it. Did a short review on it last month :cool:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=21805318#post21805318
    Frank

    Polk LSiM 703 mains on Skylan Stands
    Polk LSiM 704c center
    Polk FX500i surrounds
    Parasound 5250 Amp
    Oppo BDP-105 :smile:
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    Panasonic 65" Viera Plasma
  • DForeman
    DForeman Posts: 468
    edited April 2012
    chandler9a wrote: »
    congrats! let us know what you think about that preamp. I was thinking about that one for a while but went a different rout and was always curious about it.

    Have been curious about adding this preamp to my system as well.

    Let us know how it turns out.
    Parasound P5 Pre
    Marantz AV 7703 Pre/Pro
    Outlaw 7500 Amp
    Marantz SA14s1 SACD/CD
    Rega Planar 2 TT
    Polk Audio Speakers: LSiM 705 Fronts, LC65FX Surround, LSiM 704c
    Oppo BDP-103
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    I decided to drive out (Hour outside the city) to pick this equipment up last night instead of tonight as tonight will be my only listening session before we head out of town for the weekend.

    Didn't hook anything up as the gear needs time to adjust to the house temperature (Was quite cold yesterday evening). So I'll be hooking it up tonight and will post some early impressions once I have had some time to tinker.

    I must say early on, Parasound makes some real nice gear. First impressions are everything and the build quality is great.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited April 2012
    Steppin' up your game eh ? Good on you and congrats. I nice review when you get the time on the difference in SQ between the pre and the receiver would benefit many members. Though I wouldn't be so quick to kick that amp to the curb either. Nice pickup.
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  • Slinger182
    Slinger182 Posts: 512
    edited April 2012
    Nice pick up. I've been looking at the 2100 for a while now. What other pre amps are out there in the same price range with HT bypass?

    Thanks and looking forward to your review.
    Panny 55-st30 plasma
    Pioneer vsx-1121
    Parasound 2100 pre
    b&k tx4430 amp
    Oppo bdp-83
    Monster HTS 3500
    polk TSi500s Vr3 Fortress modded
    polk CS20 center channel Vr3 Castle modded
    polk Owm 3 surrounds
    polk PSW505
  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2012
    Nice Score!

    Interested in reading about your impressions with this.
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    Well I was hesitant to post the following as I was waiting to ensure that the issue at hand was resolved... I'll elaborate.

    While I was checking over things, I tested all inputs/outputs, all speaker channels etc etc... I noticed that the pre-amp would NOT power down. It powered straight up when it was plugged in but wouldn't power off with the front panel button or remote. Everything else worked fine. I knew it either had to be something simple or very inexpensive to fix.

    So I began asking the seller what we could do to make this a good transaction. he was reluctant to lower the price as I was stealing it anyways... but I said that's just not going to work with me. I played off that it would cost a few bucks to have the unit looked at and repaired if need be. Him being a former Parasound dealer he was dumbfounded by the issue but his lack of common knowledge failed him here. He opted to knock $25 off the price and I got him down to $40 off.

    Turns out the small switch on the back of the unit which controls how the unit is powered was set to AC which disables the front button and remote power buttons. Laughter ensued.

    Cheapest $40 fix ever! :lol:
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2012
    And you are going to call him and tell him you found the issue was a USER related error and give him his $40 back, right? That's the right thing to do, especially if you already got a smokin' deal. Karma is a b#tch and it will come back to bite you if you don't do the right thing.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    And you are going to call him and tell him you found the issue was a USER related error and give him his $40 back, right? That's the right thing to do, especially if you already got a smokin' deal. Karma is a b#tch and it will come back to bite you if you don't do the right thing.

    Are you kidding me? What an ignorant suggestion even. I'm anticipating you'll edit your post and state you're joking.

    Brock, I'm going to sell you a pre-amp. It is in mint condition with low hours. You can drive out here and buy it. But, when you come look at it and find there is an issue, YOU can pay the full asking price and deal with it yourself. You will tell me where to go pretty fast.

    Instead, I bought the unit for a reduced price because I didn't know what exactly was wrong. I did some troubleshooting and READ THE MANUAL to figure out what the issue was. Sad that a former dealer of said products couldn't correct this. As such, he lowered the price and he doesn't have to worry about it. I think I'll draft an invoice for that amount as a fee to inspect, diagnose and correct the issue. What a deal compared to most electronic repair facilities.

    Now I'm pissed. My great mood has been spoiled by a remark from a respectable forum acquaintance. How dare you for suggesting that I've done wrong.


    Edit: As a courtesy, I promised the seller that I would let him know what the issue and resolution was.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2012
    So you knew the issue before you bought it and negotiated at the time of purchase? I assumed this was after you brought it home and you went back and he refunded you the $40. If it was done at the time of purchase as part of the negotiation, then I apologize. I can only respond to the words on the screen based on how I interpret them.

    I thought he had given you $40 when you went back to tell him something was wrong. In that case I thought he was doing you a favor and since you discovered it on your own and that it wasn't actually "broken" I suggested you return the money.

    Now, after you furthur explaining it, I see and it's all good.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    I fail to see how you came to your original conclusion. Can't you think before posting instead of painting me as some bad guy to the whole community? Or why not ask for clarification instead of posting garbage like that.

    And no, it's not "all good". I'm flippin' angry about it. Thank you for making me out to feel like a crook.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2012
    Ok, your choice to get so upset over words on a screen. Hopefully you'll settle down and enjoy the pre-amp. I hardly called you a crook, I pointed out you should do the right thing based on what you wrote.

    You failing to see how I came to my conclusion is not relevant, but I can try to explain if it will make you feel less angry. I assumed you went back to the seller (say it was me who sold it to you in good faith knowing it worked) and told me it didn't power off. We agreed as a gesture I'd give you $40 cash since there is an issue (which wasn't present when I sold it to you). Later you find out the preamp works perfectly and it was your user error that caused the issue, not that it was broken. I would expect my $40 back that I gave you for the supposed broken preamp.

    Again I thought this was good faithe gesture after you bought it since it's been almost 24 hours since you purchased it. If you can't see where I was coming from, then sorry but we are looking at it from two different POV's.

    Since I now know through your clarification that the above scenario didn't take place, I no longer think you should return the $40.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    Your assumption of events is not even close to what happened or how it was worded. Regardless, who goes to buy electronics in person but doesn't test/check it out? Anyone who goes about a purchase then try to claim some cash back for a falsely reported issue as you explained would be an idiot in my books.

    Anyways, impression to follow later.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited April 2012
    Well, I apologize for making you blow your top. That was not my intention nor was it my intention to, as you stated "call you a crook". I obviously misinterpreted your post to mean something different than it was. And you obviously misinterpreted my post as an attack on you and calling you a crook, etc.

    To be clear I NEVER said anything about "falsely reported issue", again, like myself in the original post, you are jumping to conclusions and adlibing as you go along. I think now you can understand how something can be interpreted completely differently by sender and receiver.

    Again, I was making an observation based on my interpretation of your post.

    Enjoy your new pre-amp if your threat level red has subsided.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited April 2012
    Drenis, at first read I made the same assumption H9 did. Maybe it just wasn't clear but it's certainly not something to get that upset about.
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    I read through and I suppose I can see how you two were confused. If I had added two words into the equation then it probably wouldn't have been so blown out of proportion.
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    Well... I sure like what I hear so far. Wider, fuller stage. Not just horizontally but vertically too. I've noticed some subtle differences. I understand when people talk about instruments becoming more fixed and "airy". Vocals being more pronounced. I still have a lot of listening to do but if I can dumb this down to a grade 8 level for a moment... This is awesome.

    Enjoy your evening Polkies
  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited April 2012
    Congrats on the new gear.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited April 2012
    Drenis wrote: »
    Well... I sure like what I hear so far. Wider, fuller stage. Not just horizontally but vertically too. I've noticed some subtle differences. I understand when people talk about instruments becoming more fixed and "airy". Vocals being more pronounced. I still have a lot of listening to do but if I can dumb this down to a grade 8 level for a moment... This is awesome.

    Enjoy your evening Polkies

    Very cool! Listen for a few weeks then swap in your old gear and see if it's as big a difference backwards if you know what I mean. It's always interesting to me when I do that.
  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited April 2012
    Glad to hear you're enjoying it. Congrats on the new pre:cool:.