any E.A.C users?

11tsteve
11tsteve Posts: 1,166
edited April 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
i have used EAC in the past with great success to rip mp3s, but now, since i am on a mission for better audio, i am going to rip to .flac.

first, it has taken me a couple of hours just to get it to rip a FLAC (kept getting a file naming error). so now that i have it configured as per some online instructions i found (http://rip59.dk/EACFlac/EACFlacRipping.html) it is working but is only going 0.4X in speed.

now, i realize there are certain factors involved to get an accurate rip, but at this rate, a few hundred cds may take a while.

just wondering, before i start using burst and all that, if somebody more familiar might have some time to familiarize me with some hints to get the best accuracy/speed combo.

i am using an overclocked AMD FX-6100, an LG DVD/CD drive and an LG Blu-ray drive.

i know i might be light on info, but we'll start here i guess?

thanks

steve
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited April 2012
    I've ripped around 300 CD's and I haven't really paid much attention but I think 5-10 min tops is all that it has taken per CD. There are a lot of settings but probably not that many that would slow you down. If the CD's were in bad shape you could have a lot of read errors and error correction I guess. If you Google Exact Audio Copy and use key word such as 'guide' or 'tips' there are quite a few detailed instructions out there. I'd start there and then if you're still having issues then maybe someone could help you. I'm not sure how many experts are here. Mine was pretty much plug and play but I did make sure I was using 'high' on everything (compression quality, error correction, extraction quality etc). But those would tend to slow things down if the drive was having issues.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited April 2012
    I use accurate mode, highest settings, and my rips average 3-5 minutes per clean disc. On a scratched disc; however, it may take forever...
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    ok folks... just getting back at it and i will try to use this info. the discs are clean, the vast mojority of what i own have very limited plays.
    \we will see what i can come up with. thanks!
    anonymouse wrote: »
    Is it detecting errors? Those little red indicators showing it is trying to get an accurate rip? It will slow down if it is getting inconsistent reads. Try with another CD. The rip speed has nothing, nada, absolutely zero to do with your encoder. EAC always rips to wav, and then spawns an external program to convert from wav to flac or mp3 or whatever your poison. So the encoding has nothing to do with your rip speed at all.

    it is not showing errors, but the log sayd it connot verify the accuracy of the rips either, so it seems i have something backwards.
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    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • gdpeck
    gdpeck Posts: 840
    edited April 2012
    Did you run all the autodetection stuff, so that it has your drive settings correct?
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited April 2012
    11tsteve wrote: »
    ...but the log sayd it connot verify the accuracy of the rips either, so it seems i have something backwards.

    Maybe try uninstalling and re-installing the program??
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    i have done that a half a dozen times.... it has been pretty frustrating as i am not computer stupid, and usually have a fairly intuitive grasp on new software....
    it took me an hour to get EAC to see both of my drives..... the SATA ports were AHCI, and once i set them to IDE, EAC picked them both up. i can't see it would matter, and i found no documentation for this, but there it is. whatever works?
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    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    gdpeck wrote: »
    Did you run all the autodetection stuff, so that it has your drive settings correct?
    yes i did.
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    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    i have done a ton of reading around.... it seems that there is a fairly consistent problem with new LG drives ripping slowly with EAC, though it seems there is no workaround. so, it would seem it is my dumb luck to have chosen 2 LG drives?
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2012
    Using secure mode, my rips take about 15-20 minutes per CD, using burst mode abot 10 minutes.
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  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    well, right or wrong, i have decided to rip to AIFF using Itunes... i have three people here who i have been discussing my project with, all on Itunes, and all who want access to this library of music. so, now that i have started on this trek, i realize FLACs may just end up being a pain, though the accuracy of EAC was what i really wanted.
    my ears are 46 years old, and even though i know my hearing is still pretty good, i guess we will find out how good. nobody else here cares about the quality as mp3s are good enough...

    i have ripped a few cds now to AIFF and listened both on phones and through my 11Ts..... seems ok. but i haven't ripped any older, scratched up discs yet.

    so, is my decision really so wrong? i know there will be opinions on both sides of the coin.....
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    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,221
    edited April 2012
    switch to dB Poweramp. I feel it's a better program beyond EAC not working well with LG drives.

    H9
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited April 2012
    XLD is a free ripping software I've been using that is easy and does a good job. I use it on my macbook pro. I've also used EAC.
  • 11tsteve
    11tsteve Posts: 1,166
    edited April 2012
    i went ahead and got db Poweramp, and it seems to be working quite well..

    now if i could just configure Foobar. my chain is PC--TOSLINK--Matrix Mini --- preamp. my Matrix shows as High Def Audio Device in Control Panel, and is using AMD/ATI HD drivers. when i try to configure Fobar to use WASAPI i get "Unrecoverable playback error: Device invalidated (0x88890004)". there is a lot i don't know here, and i am trying to learn as i go...
    perhaps i am not understanding even the need for WASAPI, other than it will bypass the Windows audio?
    Polk Lsi9
    N.E.W. A-20 class A 20W
    NAD 1020 completely refurbished
    Keces DA-131 mk.II
    Analysis Plus Copper Oval, Douglass, Morrow SUB3, Huffman Digital
    Paradigm DSP-3100 v.2
  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    edited April 2012
    Yes dBpoweramp is the way to go. Far more flexible than EAC but it isn't a freeware like EAC is. Still it sounds like you have some type of conflict or something in your system slowing it down if it takes that long. Maybe the codec. FLAC is not native to EAC. WAV is.

    I have had dBpoweramp for a couple years now and haven't used EAC for that same period. dBpoweramp works much better with the FLAC format.

    dBpoweramp decodes and converts just about everything and has several levels of audio to choose from.

    FLAC is the format of choice now days and I convert everything to FLAC including WAV, WavPack, APE, Shn, and Ofr.

    Here's an interesting comparison of the various lossless audio formats. It shows the time required to rip using each. The fastest two are WAV and FLAC.

    http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/lossless_audio_2006.html
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2012
    Newer versions of EAC have flac support built-in.
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