OPPO BDP 95 or 93 Questions

RocketOCannon
RocketOCannon Posts: 84
edited June 2012 in Electronics
Leaning heavily on getting a Oppo BDP95

I originally wanted to get a 93 used to save a few $$. However, I like the info I have been reading about the SQ that the 95 produces. I will be listening to my system 75% HT 25% music

I have been confused will all the different zones etc. If I am correct and purchase direct from Oppo, the unit is "North American". So, I assume I can only play material produced for this zone...i.e. if I buy The Police - Outlandos Amour (Japan)...it won't work. Can someone please clarify this for me?

Also, I see on EB there is a group that reworks the Oppo so they are zone free...they seem to be for about $300 more....is this a good option?

Please give me your thoughts on the 93 vs the 95 and any insight on what i should be looking out for.

System will be 5.1 to start
-Panasonic VT50 65"
-Nad M25 Amp
-Marantz AV7005 Pre
-Full LSiM series (707,703,706C, MiroPro 4000)

Thanks in advance!
HOME THEATER 5.1
JVC DLARS56U
92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
NAD M25 MC Power Amp
Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
Oppo 95
LSiM 705 Fronts
LSiM 706c
LSiM 703 Rears
SVS PB13 Ultra sub

ZONE 2
LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
McIntosh MC312
McIntosh C49 Preamp
Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
79' Pioneer SX-1080
Furman Elite 15 PC
Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
(Building system out currently)

OUTDOOR DECK
NAD C 375BEE DAQ
PSB CS 1000 Speakers
Sonos

Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited April 2012
    It depends how you hook it up. If you use the OPPO -> Marantz via HDMI for audio then there isn't much benefit of the 95. Even going analog, if you use Audyssey you will loose some of the benefit of the 95 due to the degregation of the A-> D -> A conversion.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2012
    Zones are for Blu-Rays, not CDs or SACDs. The Oppo 95 is highly rated for its analog out audio. As Gaara stated, using digital out there is no difference in sound between the 93 and 95. I believe the same thing applies for picture quality between the 93 and 95. I have the Oppo 93 and find its picture to be better than my Oppo 83.
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  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2012
    i bought 93 also and couldn't justify the added cost....IMO, using that $500 to upgrade crossover will yield more improvement than going from 93 to 95....or new cables...

    if it was $200 difference, then yes I would've bought 95...
    Video: LG 55LN5100/Samsung LNT4065F
    Receiver: HK AVR445
    Source: OPPO BDP-93
    HT: POLK SPEAKERS RTi6, FXi3, CSi5, VTF-3 MK2
    2Ch system: MC2105, AR-XA, AR-2A, AR9, BX-300, OPPO BDP-83
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited April 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Zones are for Blu-Rays, not CDs or SACDs. The Oppo 95 is highly rated for its analog out audio. As Gaara stated, using digital out there is no difference in sound between the 93 and 95. I believe the same thing applies for picture quality between the 93 and 95. I have the Oppo 93 and find its picture to be better than my Oppo 83.

    I believe the 95 uses better HDMI processing chips so there is a difference in the picture but I could be wrong......

    **ninja edit** Ignore my post, quick search says they use the same video chips.....
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2012
    I believe the 95 uses better HDMI processing chips so there is a difference in the picture but I could be wrong......
    Picture quality is the same.
  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited April 2012
    Thanks for the input.

    Anyone have any thoughts or experience on the NAD M56?

    Any thoughts on the NAD M56 vs the Oppo's?

    The Oppos seem like excellent players at a more then reasonable price for what you seem to get in return(Performance)based on reviews, comments, awards etc

    Is there a big diff going from what is considered "Budget"- Oppo,(Although they seem real nice to me) to more recognized higher end BRPlayers?

    Thanks,
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,289
    edited April 2012
    Rocket I don't believe twice the cost is going to be a huge benefit, also the NAD56 does not play SACD if thats your cup of tea...IMHO
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    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
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  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited April 2012
    Thanks for the info TX.

    Just seems like the Oppos is a great player A-Z.

    Yes I will be trying out some SACD etc....good point.

    Anyone have any thoughts, experience or info on Opppo's or any other player please chirp in.
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • KYFHO
    KYFHO Posts: 76
    edited April 2012
    I have the 95. The sound via analog is outstanding! The build quality is second to none. Regarding the Audessy - The OPPO has manual calibration screens. I took the measurements from my Audessy and plugged them into the OPPO. If you don't plan on using the analog outputs, save some money and get the 93. This player makes my old DVD,s look good.
  • IRLRaceFan
    IRLRaceFan Posts: 172
    edited April 2012
    KYFHO wrote: »
    I have the 95. The sound via analog is outstanding! The build quality is second to none. Regarding the Audessy - The OPPO has manual calibration screens. I took the measurements from my Audessy and plugged them into the OPPO. If you don't plan on using the analog outputs, save some money and get the 93. This player makes my old DVD,s look good.

    Have you listened to a 93 analog out? If so, how much of a step up is the 95?

    I hooked up my 93 today, analog out, for the first time and thought is sounded better than HDMI (several CD's and a 2-ch SACD).
    It's not a ton better, but since I have enough extra IC's I'll keep it analog out.

    Now I'm wondering HOW much better a 95 would be????
    I know all of the reviews say it is, but I'd like to hear from someone who actually did the comparison and kept the 95 over the 93.
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  • KYFHO
    KYFHO Posts: 76
    edited April 2012
    Sorry, I have never used the 93, only the 95 so I can't really comment on it. Keep in mind the DAC and most internals in the audio stage of the 95 to include the power supply, are completely upgraded over the 93. All I know is I used my 95 for around 6 weeks and just to see what kind of difference it really was, I hooked up my old Sony Blu-Ray. The Sony is an POS in picture quality and ESPECIALLY sound quality compared to the 95. If you have the coin go for the 95, I'm glad I did - This thing is a permanent fixture in my system.
  • devani
    devani Posts: 1,497
    edited April 2012
    if you connect OPPO 93 or 95 via HDMI, there is no difference....

    also it depends on what does DAC...OPPO 93 or 95 or your receiver

    you said old Sony bluray player, which I assume you are using HDMI connection to receiver...
    Video: LG 55LN5100/Samsung LNT4065F
    Receiver: HK AVR445
    Source: OPPO BDP-93
    HT: POLK SPEAKERS RTi6, FXi3, CSi5, VTF-3 MK2
    2Ch system: MC2105, AR-XA, AR-2A, AR9, BX-300, OPPO BDP-83
  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited June 2012
    Pulled the trigger on a 93.....Im psyched!
    Should be here soon.

    Wont be able to listen to it for a while though. Total system is not all here yet.
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited June 2012
    Pulled the trigger on a 93.....Im psyched!
    Should be here soon.

    Wont be able to listen to it for a while though. Total system is not all here yet.

    Did you get any of the Polk speakers yet?
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2012
    Assuming that "music" as 25 percent is important to you, get the 95, hook it up both ways: HDMI and L/R analog and switch back and forth as needed. You WILL hear a difference on CDs and SACDs through the analog hook-up and it will be superior to the HDMI output for the most part. Why short change yourself?

    cnh
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  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited June 2012
    CNH - lol..ughhh..now you mention that! I did get some info from Oppo CS..they said go with the 93. Down the road a bit 1 year...I might get the 95...we will see. I already ordered and I will be fine with the 93...for now. :>)

    Leroy - I have the 707 currently. Im putting my big purchase soon. Maybe by early June. I have possession of the NAD M25 too...I just sit and stare at them. I have the 707s hooked up to my old Pioneer and some basic monster cable...sounds nie, but cant wait to get the whole system done and fore up a Blue Ray or SACD! Construction starts end of July.

    I also was going to get 4 703s..(2 as my rears in the HT)now I might go with 2 705s and only 2 703s. If I have to put an estimated $1,300-$1,600 in to speaker stands I figure screw it and go with the 705's for a different zone for 2 channel listening...100% music. Figure I might as well put it in to speaker/sound then in to lead shot and steel! This would give me the whole LSiM line up and I will get a good gauge of how the different speakers sound. I might use the 705s in the HT since that is a smaller space. The 707s will want to breath a bit. Everything is starting to get there...just need to be patient a lil longer.
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited June 2012
    I picked up a 95. It will be here Friday. I just knew that I would regret getting the 93 instead down the road. I do listen to a lot of 2 channel but I like my bass management on my Integra. Not sure how the 95 handles the subs in analog ...?
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
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    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
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  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited June 2012
    My 93 hasn't arrived yet...now Im thinking about shipping it right back and coughing the extra $ for the 95.
    At least if I have it in possession...I won't be second guessing myself.

    ..is this the entry in to the rabbit hole? lol
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • suprafantx
    suprafantx Posts: 249
    edited June 2012
    I like the sound of 95 :razz: but I hate the fan noise when it is on :cry:.
    Living room
    Speakers: McIntosh XR100 Fronts, LSIM707 Fronts, LSIM 706 Center, LSIM 703 Surrounds, LSi/FX Surround backs.
    Player: Oppo 95.
    Amps: Bryston 4B SST, B&K Ref 200.7 S2.
    Pres: B&K Ref 50 S2, Paraound P5.
    Subs: Dual Rythmik F15HP subs.

    Man Cave
    Speakers: Martin Logan Vistas.
    Player: OPPO 105.
    Preamp: B&K Ref 50 S2.
    Amp: B&K Ref 125.2 S2
    Sub: Rythmik F12.
    Sub management: SMS-1.
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    Room treatment: GIK Room Kit #1.
  • RocketOCannon
    RocketOCannon Posts: 84
    edited June 2012
    ok Im a freak....just pulled the trigger on the 95 and sending the 93 back.

    This way I have no regrets and I will hook it up both ways and see if there is any difference. If not, I will still have a sweet Oppo that I will be happy with. :>) No regrets..."GO Big or Go Home" eh? lol

    CNH gave me a complex! lol
    HOME THEATER 5.1
    JVC DLARS56U
    92" SI Black Diamond 1.4 16:9
    NAD M25 MC Power Amp
    Marantz AV7005 Pre Amp
    Oppo 95
    LSiM 705 Fronts
    LSiM 706c
    LSiM 703 Rears
    SVS PB13 Ultra sub

    ZONE 2
    LSIM 707 (2 Channel Sessions)
    McIntosh MC312
    McIntosh C49 Preamp
    Marantz SA8005 SACD/CD Player
    79' Pioneer SX-1080
    Furman Elite 15 PC
    Solidsteele HF-4 series rack
    (Building system out currently)

    OUTDOOR DECK
    NAD C 375BEE DAQ
    PSB CS 1000 Speakers
    Sonos

    Signal Cable - Ultra Single (Banana), Magic Power Cord, Dig Power, Vid Power.
    RTi T3-V+, SONOS, Furman Power Conditioner
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,289
    edited June 2012
    CNH gave me a complex! lol
    ....LOL

    Shame on you CNH

    Rocket you were doomed as of Jan. 2012
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    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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