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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited April 2012
    pepster wrote: »
    Beautiful song by the way!
    Not sure who sings it, anyone know?
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited April 2012
    schwarcw wrote: »
    Abraham Lincoln was also shot on this date by an assasin. Should we ban guns?:twisted:

    They are trying.
    Too much **** to list....
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited April 2012
    schwarcw wrote: »
    Abraham Lincoln was also shot on this date by an assasin. Should we ban guns?:twisted:
    Firing a gun doesn't kill everything for the next couple of thousand years.
    Let's say a power plant up along the great lakes had an accident of the same
    magnitude. Imagine not being able to use water form any of the great lakes
    for thousands of years. I don't want to ban them, but I sure as hell don't
    want to have any lapses in safety. Most of the currently running plants
    are way past their prime. Time to apply new technology and designs,
    with a focus on safety, not cutting costs.That's what
    BP was doing that caused the big drilling accident in the Gulf.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,717
    edited April 2012
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    There was a test reactor accident in 1961 where a sticky control rod caused a problem.
    They applied more force, and it suddenly came unstuck. It popped up, creating a surge
    and the rod then launched out and impaled a worker in the ceiling of the enclosure.
    The only good news is that they learned a lot about what to do and what not to do.
    Same with three mile island. Our accidents weren't as big. But they sure could of been.
    There are no minor screw ups when it comes to power plants.

    I believe that was out there in the wilds of Idaho, an Army reactor. Person pulled up on the rod and ..... WHAMMO !
    Story we heard was that the guy was suicidal. Might have gotten 1" of lift on the rod before the reactor went prompt critical.
    Sal Palooza
  • zane77
    zane77 Posts: 1,696
    edited April 2012
    The "wilds of Idaho" is only about an hour and a half from where I live! This is the Idaho Engineering Laboratory, they do a lot of nuclear research out there in the high desert. The Navy used to have their nuclear training facility out there. Used to be really wierd to see all these Navy people around here so far from the ocean.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2012
    Face wrote: »
    Can't wait until we get the truth about Japan's radiation status.

    Can you imagine the economic ramifications of them saying, yeah, it was super, fantastic ya ya not cool?? Think globally, not locally. So you have web feet for a couple generations, big deal....Anime super heroes will grow exponentially.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited April 2012
    I believe that was out there in the wilds of Idaho, an Army reactor. Person pulled up on the rod and ..... WHAMMO !
    Story we heard was that the guy was suicidal. Might have gotten 1" of lift on the rod before the reactor went prompt critical.

    Not the case. They knew there were problems with the control rod. Instead of raising slowly, it stuck, then jerked up.
    Sounds pretty mild, until you find out that sudden movement caused a huge surge in heat. That's what launched the rod.
    Once that happened, it was all over.
    The thing they learned from this that it's better to have a lot of smaller control rods than a few big ones.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited April 2012
    When they scrammed the system the graphite tips from the control rods all started going back in, that is what caused the power surge. It wasn't just one rod it was many. The controllers were having trouble getting the power levels they needed and pulled most of the control rods out to get things going. They thought they had it stable when they saw a spike. One of the controllers hit the Scram Button and when the control rods starting going back in poof.

    They had the problem earlier at another plant but it never went critical like it did at Chernobyl. That was just the straw by the way. They did so many things wrong it would have been amazing if something didn't happen.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited April 2012
    dorokusai wrote: »
    So you have web feet for a couple generations, big deal....Anime super heroes will grow exponentially.

    Nah....I much prefer Kamodo Dragons the size of a Blue Whale, or a Great White Shark the size of a cruise ship. Put that in your zoo. :wink:
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,717
    edited April 2012
    Sucks2beme, the scenario that you described may have been the case; it would account for how the dood, who was on top of the reactor containment vessel, got pinned to the reactor compartment ceiling when the reactor went Puff the Magic Dragon.
    If nothing else, it sounds better than a suicidal technician.

    If that had been a Naval reactor with stuck rods, Rickover would have merely popped the top off, reached down, and unstuck any problem control rods by hand. Chuck Norris tried to be a nuke, but Rickover dismissed him for lack of intensity. :wink:
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