Fair price for Polk Audio SDA 1C??

nhhiep
nhhiep Posts: 877
edited April 2012 in Speakers
I am thinking about getting this. What do you think is a good deal price? I don't really need more speakers, but keep on hearing about SDA discussions. In a small room, how is it compared to Lsi9 in term of mid and high?

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,333
    edited April 2012
    Between $250-$500 depending on condition of course..
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  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited April 2012
    If that is just dust on them, then 350-400 would be a good deal. They have a much wider soundstage than the a Lsi9 but sound much dfferent. I used to own Lsi 9's and think they are great bookself speakers but the SDA 1c's could blow you away in a small room. I would get them at that price. You really can't lose with them. You could easily sell the 1c's or Lsi9's depending on which one you like more. The Lsi9's have a better tweeter than the Sl2000's in the 1c's but it would be less noticable if you upgraded to RDO 194's. Good luck.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,333
    edited April 2012
    I wouldnt go more then $250 after looking at those pics they look like they have been run hard, the side panels are missing for one and they are filthy..

    Be sure to check all drivers to make sure they are in working condition..
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited April 2012
    See if you can grab them for a buck fifty (slang for $150.00), and that's if all the drivers are working.

    They look like they went through a tornado.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,189
    edited April 2012
    Good lord, those are the worst pair I've ever seen!!!

    100.00
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2012
    F the lipstick, powder & paint.......how do they SOUND ?
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2012
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2012
    ****-uming that all MWs and PRs are operable............minimum parts value is $250.00 - up. What are you people smoking/drinking tonite ?:rolleyes:
  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited April 2012
    gdb wrote: »
    ****-uming that all MWs and PRs are operable............minimum parts value is $250.00 - up. What are you people smoking/drinking tonite ?:rolleyes:

    That may be a better option for the seller.

    But as a buyer, I'm liking the new $50-$75 suggestion. It's going to take some work to get them looking good again.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2012
    gdb wrote: »
    ****-uming that all MWs and PRs are operable............minimum parts value is $250.00 - up. What are you people smoking/drinking tonite ?:rolleyes:

    I wouldn't pay $250 for those in that shape.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited April 2012
    That's criminal, the owner should be taken out back and forced to listen to Bose powered by emo.
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  • naturallight
    naturallight Posts: 689
    edited April 2012
    Wow..i thought my 1C's were shot..but these pretty much take the cake. The pic's were taken in a garage...and probably were the speakers have been sitting. For how long..who knows. The drivers look to be all original. But if any of them REALLY work..thats another story. i'd be tempted to offer him...MAYBE $150 just to sent me the parts, IF he would take out all the drivers and X-overs...and wrap them nice. But i get a bad feeling..pretty much most of them are going to be shot.
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2012
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    I wouldn't pay $250 for those in that shape.

    You obviously are a cheapskate or....don't like to acquire spares. I'd hate to see all the components trashed just due to the cosmetics! Then again, the complete revamping of the cases is something that is easy for me to do whereas......electronics, not so much.:wink:
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,333
    edited April 2012
    Yeah now that I can see them better on my iPad and not on my iPhone I would pass those are trash.. $50 bucks max..
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2012
    gdb wrote: »
    You obviously are a cheapskate or....don't like to acquire spares. I'd hate to see all the components trashed just due to the cosmetics! Then again, the complete revamping of the cases is something that is easy for me to do whereas......electronics, not so much.:wink:

    So sorry, just relooked at the pictures when I got home and I have to change my first quote of $75 to.............$15:cheesygrin:
  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited April 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    That's criminal, the owner should be taken out back and forced to listen to Bose powered by emo.

    Best...quote...ever...
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited April 2012
    I wouldn't buy them, working or not. Look like they were in a wood working or body shop for the last 20yrs.

    Wow, Those are beat up.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    Those are in fair condition. The owner should be strung up for treating them like that. Not sure I'd even make an offer unless you are pretty handy with wood and making new cloth side panels. You'd have to make sure they function properly too.

    1C's are a lot better than LSi 9's when using the RD0194-1 tweets. I have owned both and my modded 1C's are better in every aspect except foot print. That said it's sort of an apples to oranges comparison.

    Unless you are able to put the time and effort into a restoration, I'd pass on these unless you can get them stupid cheap (like $75 or less).

    H9
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited April 2012
    The seller lives 5 mins from me. I stopped by just for fun and ended up getting them for $200. It's totally stock. They looks better in person. All woofers look great given the age.

    I just don't understand why people put candles on speakers. Is there an easy way to clean that? I plan to heat it up using the dryer to melt the candles this weekend.

    1. The upper Left tweeter is not working. I keep hearing about the upgrade tweeter, which one to get? (RBO19x, SL3000, sl2500, etc...?) and what is the price on these?
    2. The covers look that bad in person. where can I get a replacement? price?

    About the sound, Compare to what I have, it sounds very different in a good way. Soundstage is crazy wider than Lsi9s, much wider than Rti12s. Rti12s sound very directional during comparison. When sitting between L/T, close my eyes and I couldn't pinpoint the speakers' location, as if there is a "wall of sound" in front of me. Lsi9s have better mid/high.

    I tested without the IC cable between them and they sound very small and directional, very bad actually.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    The tweeters are $48 each shipped with CP discount. You will need to replace all 4 for it to sound right. A good upgrade anyway.

    You can't buy replacement side panels, you'll have to make some on your own. $200 is a lot for those especially since tweets don't work and the cosmetic issues. But, 5 minutes away and now you have project SDA's............life should be good.


    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited April 2012
    I don't think they come with side panels. All I am seeing is black wood on the side (which is fine with me), not sure how to mount the side panels if there is one. I was preferring to the front covers
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    They have covered side panels, I know because I own a pair. Sonically probably not detrimental, but visually a little off putting, IMO.

    You will have to go to a fabric store and buy acoustic fabric and recover the original grills.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    Certainly they loose some of their magic without the cable, but if they sound downright awful without the cable connected you may have other issues. Best to check to make sure all drivers are working properly. If they were that poorly kept physically one can only imagine and assume some sort of electrical abuse.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited April 2012
    All the woofers are in very good working condition actually. Surprisingly, once I take off the cover, everything behind it are very clean. The cover did its job here by taking all the damage. Now just need a new tweeter or maybe a better replacement and call it done. I kinda like them naked somehow.

    Buying all new 4 tweeters for them to match will be like $200 is too much for them. I am thinking just buying 1 used SL2000 so I don't have to deal with used vs new sound issue.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    If you get the RD0's new from Polk they are different than the SL2000 currently in use, so either get 4 new tweets from Polk or find a used SL2000 on Ebay or sometimes people here have them for sale when they buy the new RD0's. You will be much better off getting 4 new silk dome RD0194-1 from Polk as they sound a LOT better than the stock SL2000, but that's up to you and your wallet. Or I suppose you could 1/2 **** it and buy just 1 RD0 new from Polk but they are completely different sounding tweeters and they look different and that would be sort of hillbilly.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    nhhiep wrote: »

    Buying all new 4 tweeters for them to match will be like $200 is too much for them. I am thinking just buying 1 used SL2000 so I don't have to deal with used vs new sound issue.

    You and your wallet have to decide. Easily worth the investment as they are a much better tweeter.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited April 2012
    nhhiep wrote: »
    I don't think they come with side panels. All I am seeing is black wood on the side (which is fine with me), not sure how to mount the side panels if there is one. I was preferring to the front covers
    Quick googling shows how the side panels/covers look like...
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited April 2012
    If you decide to part em out.....I'll give you $200 + shipping for the eight MWs :wink: (working, of course)
  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited April 2012
    id buy them as cheap as you can <$100 and then part them out. should be worth your effort.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    newrival wrote: »
    id buy them as cheap as you can <$100 and then part them out. should be worth your effort.

    He already posted he paid $200 for them w/one tweeter not working, trashed end caps, no cloth covered sides and ruined grills.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!