universal (SACD DVD-A) DVD player?

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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by Dr. Spec
    I play all music via the Denon's analog outputs. I have the sub calibrated flat for music and this makes it easy to retain a hotter calibration for HT by using the 3803 for that.

    I just pulled the trigger last night and bought the Denon 2900 and a Monster HT 5100 power center. Both products were integrated into the HT last night. I have to say I am truely IMPRESSED with the Deno in both vidio and audio quality. I was very sckeptical that the Denon could beat my Cal Audio Labs but hands down that 12 bit dac is vibrant. I also purchased 2 DVD-A's(Eagles Hotel California and Forenor) and 2 SACD(Toto and G Thorogood) and both WOWed me. Doc I'll probably be pingen ya regarding some set up regarding the lfe levels out of the Denon. Just seems to me that the Bass from SACD/DVD-A are a little lower than I expected? BTW I'm using the 8 Channel pass through from my h/k 520 then out to my Outlaw 770.

    The monstr Power Center cleaned up a ground loop between my DTV HD box and ground which I was able hear a hum when I connection the component vidio into my Sony high def 57". The HT5100 munched it for breakfast. Also I through in Star Wars and flipped to the pod race and drove the current levels up to about 9amps. Truely intense but it asked for more!

    Also while I'm at it I received the CS400i from fgr41 and it was PERFECT! fgr if you are ever in the KC area please give me a shout because I owe ya a beer bud. Hats off to you and thanks for making this transaction truely enjoyable.

    Here tooooo some new TOYS:D

    HBomb
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    Henry - I am picking up the HTS5100 also, glad to hear I will be happy. The Denon really is the standard by which others are measured these days.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Duffman
    Duffman Posts: 51
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by eclypse
    I hear with most of these players that you have to use the Analog outs to get the full range sound.. If ya use the digital out, it will then shoot it out as PCM... Kinda stupid really.. plus cost me more then i'm willing to admit to buying 3 sets of Monster high end audio cables for it.

    Now is this the same for movie watching on these players using the digital out since its a decoder on its own.. Or is that a no no as well?
    I was also a little disappointed at the analog cables thing. Apparently some of the high end players are coming out with a single firewire connection that eliminates the need for the 6 analog cables. Of course this assumes your receiver/processor has firewire support...

    As far as movies go, I've been letting the Denon's multi-channel processor handle everything - I'm betting that it's dolby D processor is better than the one in my 3 year old Onkyo 787. Maybe other Denon owners could chime in on their approach....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited October 2003
    I know of many SACD reference level players, so does anybody make a reference level DVD-A player ? I haven't seen one and I wonder why!?!


    HBomb,

    Where did you buy the Thorogood SACD? I went looking for it yesterday, but no luck. I did come back with a couple of new Bowie SACD's however. :D
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by F1nut

    HBomb,

    Where did you buy the Thorogood SACD? I went looking for it yesterday, but no luck. I did come back with a couple of new Bowie SACD's however. :D

    CC had about 4 when I strolled through. If you want I can go grab you 1 and ship it to ya? No Problem... If so I'll stop by after work if you want. I just hope I'm not confusing it with the dvd-a but I'm almost certain it is sacd...

    HBomb
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by F1nut
    I know of many SACD reference level players, so does anybody make a reference level DVD-A player ? I haven't seen one and I wonder why!?!

    Jesse, the closest DVD-A near reference player would be Denon DVD 3800. At least, that was true a year ago, that's why I bought mine. But its reputation ain't close to XA777ES SACD...
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,753
    edited October 2003
    HBomb,

    Cool! I'll run by the local CC, but I do appreciate your offer. I got the Bowie SACD's at Tower Records, they said their shipment of Thorogood SACD's was delayed.



    Polkatese,

    Thanks for the info. I love my XA777ES, but there are some titles on DVD-A only that I would like to have. Crazy format war!!!
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited October 2003
    Jesse,
    if you are looking into the availability of the format, wait around since it keeps changing/evolving. I was looking for SACD Steely Dan *Gaucho* several months ago, and can't find one, so bought the DTS version. Yesterday, I saw the SACD version at BB. Needless to say, I am a bit miffed since I really want the SACD version. oh well...(not to say I don't enjoy DTS)
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • izafar
    izafar Posts: 819
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by HBombToo
    Just seems to me that the Bass from SACD/DVD-A are a little lower than I expected?

    HBombToo:
    You need to turn on the option of +10db boost for sub level for SACD/DVD Audio on 2900. This will solve the weak bass issue.
    -izafar

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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by F1nut

    Polkatese,

    Thanks for the info. I love my XA777ES, but there are some titles on DVD-A only that I would like to have. Crazy format war!!!

    The very same reason why I went with a Universal... BUT, I'll be kicking myself when I'm wiching I went with seperates:(

    If the Doc approves of the 2900 and so far I'm amazed, there will not be an upgrade any time soon!:D

    The Twin
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited October 2003
    Hey HBombtoo, check this review of the Denon 2900 DVD

    In there he talks about how he set the player up with the bass levels and such.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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  • ToddB
    ToddB Posts: 21
    edited October 2003
    Just out of curiosity, what takes precedence, the settings in the Denon DVD player (or any DVD player for that matter) or the settings in the pre/pro?

    For instance, and I'm not sure why you would do this, but just for the sake of discussion, what if your speaker settings were set to large in the DVD player and small in the pre/pro. What component wins or what is the net effect??
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  • HBombToo
    HBombToo Posts: 5,256
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by eclypse
    Hey HBombtoo, check this review of the Denon 2900 DVD

    In there he talks about how he set the player up with the bass levels and such.

    Great link and Thank You sir!

    HBomb
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited October 2003
    Hey acdds.. I just got my Denon 2900 DVD player S/D from www.crutchfield.com and it looks to be in unused condition! I have'nt tested it yet though but i've opened it up and everything looks completely new.. No marks,blemishes,scratches nothing on the player. I have everything thats included completely sealed even the batteries.

    Was yours in this condition as well? heh odd.. :D

    Only thing buggin me is that the manufactur date is May 2003.. Now i've read some review recently on this player and others about there faults and it had many but it was a Mode 1 or version 1 2900.. oviously this leads me to believe that theres a newer version out there with fixes.. So i'm hoping that i dont have the older version.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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  • acdds
    acdds Posts: 253
    edited October 2003
    Mine came in the perfect condition. As soon as I opened it I went over that thing with a microscope looking for marks but didn't see any. Mine had sealed batteries and manuals. I asked a crutchfield rep when I ordered what constitutes a scratch and dent model he said, cosmetic flaws, functional (but repaires) flaws, and units that were returned incomplete (missing manuals, remotes, power cords etc..). So either our units were flawed internally or the were returned missing pieces. Either way, I could care less, I've had mined for about a month now and had absolutely no problems. What kind of flaws did you read about? Got a link? My manufacture date is March 2003.
    Receiver = Denon AVR-3803
    DVD = Denon DV-2900
    Fronts = SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    (Carver m1.5t)
    Center = CSi40
    Side surrounds = Fxi30's
    Sony 12" sub
    TV = Hitachi 57F500

    Bedroom rig:
    Pioneer SX-1050 receiver
    Rti38's
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  • eclypse
    eclypse Posts: 595
    edited October 2003
    Ok cool.. I'll hunt for it tomorrow sometime.. Right now i'm suffering from a massive damn headache.
    Full 5 channel set of Polk Audio
    Fronts - LSiM 705
    Center - LSiM 706c
    Sides - LSiM 703
    Mits WD-82842 82" DLP 3DTV
    Denon AVR-3313CI Receiver
    Emotiva stealth DC-1
    Emotiva XPA-2/Fronts XPA-3 Center-surrounds
    Oppo 103

    Loving the new Family! :)
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