16 ga

ipartywhenuhurt
ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
edited March 2012 in Car Audio & Electronics
would 16 ga be good enough to handel 150 rms or do i have to go 12ga? or could i may be even use 18 ga for the sr6500 speaker wires? what you guys suggest? and does anyone know of a good place to buy speaker wire and power wire at ??? i need extra stuff for now i have two amps but only one wires to make the sub amp work while the 4 channel has nothing and i need to buy some wires :cheesygrin:

its my first full install im really excited :cheesygrin: :cheesygrin: :cheesygrin: :cheesygrin: :cheesygrin:
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  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    sorry meant to say enough wires for one amp
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited March 2012
    I bought all my last install wire at Home Depot. I would suggest buy the largest gauge wire you can afford and run, but 16AWG should be enough.
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited March 2012
    you can find 12 for pretty cheap. How many feet do u need?

    https://www.knukonceptz.com/

    Best bang for your buck quality wise.
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  • Vital
    Vital Posts: 747
    edited March 2012
    Proper gauge of wire depends on it's total length but in most car audio installs 16g works fine.
    These kinds of threads usually end up in "wire is wire, no need to pay more for them vs make sure to get good quality wire" arguments.
    In my opinion getting Home Depot wire is just asking for alternator noise. They might work fine in home application but car is different.
    If you need a bunch of everything (power, speaker, RCA wires, distro blocks...and you do given that you have 2 amps) shell out some good $$$ for a good wire kit - Rockford, Kicker, JL, Knukonceptz.... IMO it beats having to troubleshoot noise and/or re-install everything just to find out that cheap wire is the cause of you noise.
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  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    do you know any web sites i can find some of the kits? for the hd600/4?
  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    my limit is 45, but i know i wont be able to get anything good at that price so ill say 60 if i need to ......


    and im tolking about my price range :) and thanks for the help guys :cheesygrin:
  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    ohhh and NO cca only ofc
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited March 2012
    do you know any web sites i can find some of the kits? for the hd600/4?

    Maybe post once.
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  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    sorry , just think too much about this things :redface: im also impatient at times
  • the88thpianoman
    the88thpianoman Posts: 36
    edited March 2012
    you can find 12 for pretty cheap. How many feet do u need?

    https://www.knukonceptz.com/

    Best bang for your buck quality wise.

    This times a million. Insanely good quality and service, as well as super fast shipping. I cautiously ordered from them for the first time about a year ago, and was so impressed with the quality to price that they are the only place I shop for wiring now.
  • ipartywhenuhurt
    ipartywhenuhurt Posts: 130
    edited March 2012
    thank you im probably going to give them a try
  • EBAN44
    EBAN44 Posts: 39
    edited March 2012
    For Speaker wire I used:

    http://stores.ebay.com/Monoprice-Com/_i.html?_nkw=speaker+wire&submit=Search&_sid=25280715

    From monoprice which is a good affordable website for cables. I linked their ebay store bc its cheaper on there then their website, but less selection.
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited March 2012
    the above wire simply isnt suitable for a car.
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  • the88thpianoman
    the88thpianoman Posts: 36
    edited March 2012
    the above wire simply isnt suitable for a car.

    I don't know if twisted wire really does anything for noise suppression, but I'm using this stuff: https://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KAR16SS

    All knu wire is oversized from the AWG standards, the 16 gauge is plenty adequate for 150 RMS per channel. You really can't beat 40 cents per foot for the stuff either.
  • EBAN44
    EBAN44 Posts: 39
    edited March 2012
    the above wire simply isnt suitable for a car.

    What makes it unsuitable? Been using 14ga of it for a couple years with no noise at all and its been working fine.
    or are you just one of those guys who thinks Chinese wire with a name on it is better then no name? lol
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited March 2012
    Noise is the problem.
    Not everyone has it, but to me, its not worth the time to go thru the process of installing the gear, only to find out that you have that noise.

    Also, if you cant afford it, you cant afford it, but you may end up with noise. Im not saying u will 100% have noise, but there is a decent enough chance.

    14ga is fine, most people only use 12 on a sub, but 12 all around IS better, especially if you are making long runs.

    Dont ever short yourself on the quality of wire.
    Great amp + Great speakers + bad wire = waste of money and quality in the other components.
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  • EBAN44
    EBAN44 Posts: 39
    edited March 2012
    I just don't see the point in spending money on pretty looking speaker wire, when that is about the last place you get noise from.
    RCAs now yes, I will spend a little more on, same for power and ground. Speaker wire is just hard to get noise from even if you run it wire tied to your power wire.
  • eloplayspolo
    eloplayspolo Posts: 1,117
    edited March 2012
    EBAN44 wrote: »
    I just don't see the point in spending money on pretty looking speaker wire, when that is about the last place you get noise from.
    RCAs now yes, I will spend a little more on, same for power and ground. Speaker wire is just hard to get noise from even if you run it wire tied to your power wire.

    You are right - it is very difficult to get noise in speaker wire. Doesn't change the fact that there is a reason there is specific car audio cable and specific home audio cable.

    We can agree to disagree here.
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  • 1996blackmax
    1996blackmax Posts: 2,436
    edited March 2012
    Go with the knukonceptz wire....good company to deal with, good prices, & good products.
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