watts,db,spl???
littlewoodboats
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How does all of this work?
I am asking as I just got back into stereo and in all honesty I did not know much about it to begin with.
I recently picked up a pair of SDA 2A rated at 92db 1watt one meter
How does the db/spl change with amplifier power?
I am asking as I just got back into stereo and in all honesty I did not know much about it to begin with.
I recently picked up a pair of SDA 2A rated at 92db 1watt one meter
How does the db/spl change with amplifier power?
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for every 3db increase you need twice the wattage.
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Sound Pressure Level and Power
Sound Pressure Level
``Threshold of audibility'' or the minimum pressure fluctuation detected by the ear is less than of atmospheric pressure or about N/m at 1000 Hz.
``Threshold of pain'' corresponds to a pressure times greater, but still less than 1/1000 of atmospheric pressure.
Because of the wide range, sound pressure measurements are made on a logarithmic scale (decibel scale).
Sound Pressure Level (SPL) , where N/m.
SPL is proportional to the average squared amplitude.
Sound Power
Total sound power emitted by a source in all directions.
Measured in watts (joules / second).
Sound Power Level (PWL) = , where watts.
Sound Intensity
Rate of energy flow across a unit area.
Sound Intensity Level (IL) = , where watts/meter.
Multiple Sources
Two equal sources produce a 3 dB increase in sound power level.
Two equal sources produce a 3 dB increase in sound pressure level, assuming no interference.
Two 80 dB sources add to produce an 83 dB SPL. -
littlewoodboats wrote: »How does all of this work?
I am asking as I just got back into stereo and in all honesty I did not know much about it to begin with.
I recently picked up a pair of SDA 2A rated at 92db 1watt one meter
How does the db/spl change with amplifier power?
Here's a great site that will help you understand SPL requirements & a host of other information all audio & video related.
http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html"2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
The SPL you are speaking about with those specs is sensitivity more than output. I have had my SDA2's well past 100db before.
The sensitivity is how much sound they can output at 1 watt from 1 meter away.
For smaller amps and flea watt tube amps the higher this sensitivity the better (Usually) that is why Klipsch has such a strong tube following. There speakers are very effecient. This doesn't always translate into better sound though. I have seen very inefficient speakers that sound just awesome but need more power to get that awesomeness out of them. Polk Lsi9's come to mind. -
With 92dB rated speakers, at:
2watts...95dB would be output
4watts...98dB
8watts...101dB
16watts...104dB
32watts...107dB...and so on.
Notice how quickly power gets gobbled up at higher outputs.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 -
Thanks for the replies and information.
With the listed impedance my stuck in Class A Yamaha should be making 19 watts. Sounds great but one can definitely hear it start to run out of gas. I have a stereo tube amp in the works but that is still in the bottom half of the recommended power listings on the speakers.
Based on what has been posted here I should have no issues with a lack of power. I am a bit more responsible with the volume control than in my younger days but it is nice to be able to turn it up a bit should the urge hit me. -
92dB is pretty efficient, I think you'll be fine.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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Don't put so much emphasis on watts, it's current speakers love. Also, with all the numbers thrown out at you, keep in mind those are for 1 meter away. Your room size will have alot to do with it too along with placement. A tube amp should do well on SDA's, but also consider rolling a few to get the sound you like.HT SYSTEM-
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Tony is right. I have all of 50 watts a side (tubes) on my SDA 2Bs and I can't turn the amp past 12:00. Too loud.
Of course the darn thing weighs about 50 lbs. And most of that is transformers, etc.
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