My review of the Blackstone TL3 & Ultrafit 2000 headphones

cfrizz
cfrizz Posts: 13,415
edited August 2013 in Speakers
I decided to treat myself and replace my Cambridge Soundworks satellite speakers that came with the original Cambridge Soundworks: Soundworks 2.1 system. They are being powered by the 36 wpc Cambridge Soundworks sub-woofer/amp that came with the CSW satellite speakers. The volume is controlled by the in-line volume control that came with the system and it plugs into my PC and the sub/amp.

The first thing I noticed is that these speakers are HEAVY! I don't think Polk knows how to build a lightweight speaker. The second thing I noticed, is that they are pretty big but because they have a small footprint, they just fit on my PC cart. I have to turn them outward so that they aren't playing into the back of my monitor. These are beautiful speakers with a nice shiny piano finish.

Once I had them hooked up, I started playing my music on my PC, I immediately had to turn down the volume on the sub because it was a little overpowering. I listened to a few random songs just to get an idea of how they sounded. Then I put them to the test of a music cd I put together to specifically test speakers. The songs on the cd are as follows:

Carly Simon: Live at Martha's Vineyard: It Happens Every day, Anticipation, The Right Thing to Do.
Celine Dion: The Power of the Dream
Bee Gees: I've Gotta Get a Message to You
Eric Clapton: Unplugged: Tears in Heaven & Layla
Eagles: Farewell Tour, Life in the Fast Lane & Hotel California
Virgil Fox: Heavy Organ at Carnegie Hall: Fugue in G Major

These songs for me will let me judge how well the speakers handle the clarity, separation, bass, and vocals of these songs. I turned the sub volume all the way down so that I could get a clear indication of how good the bass is. I listened first without any help from the sub all the way through the cd, then a second time with the sub added in.

The first thing I listen for is if there is any sibilance and if there is, is it within acceptable levels. Live music can tend to have quite a bit of it. Listening to some of these songs on a pair of B & W floor standers had me wincing! So listening to Eric's Tears in Heaven especially told me that the tweeter in the TL3 is a winner. While the sibilance is there, it isn't exaggerated beyond acceptable levels.

These speakers have excellent separation of the instruments, and they are very clear especially in the upper registers, but they aren't the least bit fatiguing. However, I picked up right away that the bass wasn't quite right especially on the Eagles tracks where some of the lower bass was a little thin especially at the end of Life in the Fast Lane, but I was fairly impressed with how well they handled the lower bass notes of the organ in the Gigue Fugue.

I then listened to the cd again this time with the sub volume on level 2. The sub put the true fullness back into the songs since it could hit the notes that were too low for the TL3s to handle with authority. This has also given me a better idea of how powerful the sub and amp is in this little CSW box.

I am very happy with my new computer speakers, and I strongly think that Polk should put together 2.1 computer systems that utilizes a small sub/amp like the CSW computer systems for those of us who don't want to go through the hassle of using a receiver hooked up to the PC, and where a full size sub is too big for the space I have to put it.

Polk has hit this one out of the park with the TL3's, and if they ever do make a smaller sub/amp combo with inline volume control, I will replace my CSW sub/amp with one.

Now for the Ultrafit 2000 headphones.

Polk has another winner on it's hands, these are by far the most comfortable behind the ear headphones I have ever worn! I have always worn behind the ear or over the head headphones since I don't like in-the-ear headphones.

I only wear them when I go to the gym, or when I am traveling. I wear glasses so they have to sit next to the arms on my glasses and usually within 15 minutes behind my ears start hurting, but I have gone through 45-60 minute workouts with these headphones without a bit of pain.

They have a nice snug fit that keeps them in place which allows me to hear the music better over all the other outside noise around me, but stays in place while I'm moving and working out. My only disappointment with them is that the volume control doesn't work on any other mp3 players other than Ipods. Not all of us have Ipods and it would have been nice to be able to control the volume of my Sansa player through the headphones rather than the player.

I am very happy with both of my purchases from Polk and they continue to prove why they remain my FIRST stop when I'm looking for new speakers!
Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2012
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2012
    Nice write up, thank you. I have recommended the tl3 to a couple of people and they all have been pleased.

    I think your idea for Polk to make 2.1 setup with the TLs is a fantastic idea.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,204
    edited March 2012
    Nice write up Miss Frizz

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2012
    Good review! I have the TL-3's running as PC speakers being driven by the NuForce uDAC2 and a Cambridge Audio 550 integrated. As cfrizz notes the tweeters are very, very nice, and the entire mid-range is also sweet. Surprising amount of bass for a mini-monitor. I was using a Polk MicroPro 2000 sub with mine, however that was just more than I needed for a PC audio system.
    DKG999
    HT System: LSi9, LSiCx2, LSiFX, LSi7, SVS 20-39 PC+, B&K 507.s2 AVR, B&K Ref 125.2, Tripplite LCR-2400, Cambridge 650BD, Signal Cable PC/SC, BJC IC, Samsung 55" LED

    Music System: Magnepan 1.6QR, SVS SB12+, ARC pre, Parasound HCA1500 vertically bi-amped, Jolida CDP, Pro-Ject RM5.1SE TT, Pro-Ject TubeBox SE phono pre, SBT, PS Audio DLIII DAC
  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited March 2012
    Nice review. Has anyone compared the TL3 to lsi7/lsi9 as computer speakers? of course, TL3 has less bass. But what about overall sound?
  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited March 2012
    right now, lsi7 set is only around $60 more than tl3
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2012
    nhhiep wrote: »
    Nice review. Has anyone compared the TL3 to lsi7/lsi9 as computer speakers? of course, TL3 has less bass. But what about overall sound?

    Apples to oranges comparison. The LSI's need heavy duty amplification in order to sound their best and my little 36 wpc amp/sub would not get the job done. I like these speakers because they are smaller and much easier to drive. They are perfect for a computer setup.

    You cannot compare the difference in sound to a full size bookshelf speaker, or even a tower speaker, it simply doesn't compute.

    These speakers are made for smaller rooms, with the help of a small sub where space is at a premium and at this they excel in both sound and price.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited March 2012
    Nice review.
    Polk used to be the speakers you got with the HP Pavillion PC's, that's how I first discovered them.
    I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2012
    Is the 3.5" driver in the tl3's the same same the 3.5" drivers in the lsim's?

    Thanks
  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited March 2012
    I am using the TL3 driven by an Audioengine N22 with a PSW111 and a HRT Music Streamer II for my PC system. Just got this setup last weekend and do not have a lot of time on it. I think all around this setup sounds much better than the self powered speakers I was using with the PSW111. I also feel the TL3 are perfect for a PC application.
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
    Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
    TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
    DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K
  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited March 2012
    Nice review Cathy. I did a HT install for a friend of mine & she went with the TL2's. To say I was impressed was an understatement. They sounded simply stunning...I can only imagine how the TL3's would have sounded. Enjoy your new toys.
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2012
    very nice review--sounds like your are very pleased with them.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2012
    I am very happy with the performance of these speakers George!
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • nwohlford
    nwohlford Posts: 700
    edited March 2012
    I just got a pair of TL3s for a similar set-up to cfrizz. I am using them for a basic desktop system at work hooked up to a CSW Basecube 821 mostly using my iPhone via a Pure i-20 to a Styleaudio Carat-Topaz. I have been very impressed with the sound at the low levels I listen to them.

    I will have to bring these home one weekend and put them in place of my LSi9s. While I don't expect these to match the 9s, I am curious how they will compare if I set up both with a 120 Hz crossover. Mostly, I would just like to hear what the TL3s sound like at more moderate volumes when paired with a Micropro sub.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited August 2013
    nwohlford wrote: »
    I will have to bring these home one weekend and put them in place of my LSi9s. While I don't expect these to match the 9s, I am curious how they will compare if I set up both with a 120 Hz crossover. Mostly, I would just like to hear what the TL3s sound like at more moderate volumes when paired with a Micropro sub.

    Did you ever do this Neil? The TL3s are half price right now and I am contemplating getting them for the bedroom rig...
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra

    Bedroom 2.1
    Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2013
    Nice review. Great idea on 2.1 system.

    As pointed out above, Polk used to make PC speakers. Any of you who were at Lou's Polk Fest ('10) might remember hearing a pair of powered PC speakers that Jstas brought to demo. They were a small two way design that hardly weighed that much and were not much bigger than your typical old school Harman Kardon 2.0 systems but OH the sound. These little babies put out sound well beyond their size; clean, detailed and far more musical than they ever should have been for their size or their price. John can correct me if I am wrong but I believe the MSRP on these was $99.

    I own a set of LSi-7 and fully agree with Cathy there, you do need some power behind those. But with the TL3s you can pretty much get up and running quickly.

    Enough of these Jawbones and Dre Pills--overpriced transistor radio sound. Definitely a niche here.

    cnh
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