phono Preamp or preamp dominant in line?

brgman
brgman Posts: 2,859
edited March 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
I'm looking at upgrading my phono pre to a tube but i wonder if it makes that much difference when it gets fed into a tube pre.
Which one really dominates what comes out of the speakers?The phono pre sound or the preamp sound?
I have a nice tube pre so does it help to have the phono as tube or will it be cancelled out?
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited March 2012
    nobody?
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2012
    If your Phono Pre is tubey sounding and your Pre is tubey sounding then it may matter but if your pre is neutral and your phono pre is tubey I suspect the phono pre sound will carry over to preamp.

    I have a tube pre and phono but neither are overly tubey sounding.

    With your very nice preamp I suspect you would want a phono preamp that will be neutral as possible if that is the sound you like.

    I found the CA 640P phono statge to sound warmer than my Tube phono preamp, ymmv
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,965
    edited March 2012
    I would imagine it depends on the quality of each piece. In general, I want to say the pre amp is the dominant piece and can have more of an effect on the overall sound.

    From past experiences, I found that the more pieces you had with tubes, the harder it was to find a synergy between them all. A tubed pre and SS amp always seemed to synergize better than having to match tubes between various other pieces. Just my opinion of coarse, some will like a gazillion tubes in their system. Whatever floats your boat and all that.
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