Any Janis Joplin/Big Brother fans

BlueFox
BlueFox Posts: 15,251
edited March 2012 in Music & Movies
This CD got a rave review in today's Chronicle. I just placed it in my Amazon shopping cart.

http://www.amazon.com/Live-The-Carousel-Ballroom-1968/dp/B006T5FDHK/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1331780447&sr=1-1
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited March 2012
    Ball and Chain alone may be worth the asking price.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited March 2012
    It should be on the way from Amazon shortly!
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited March 2012
    She/they were one of the warm-up bands when I saw Mr. Hendrix.

    She puts out. She really outputs.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2012
    Duly carted...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2012
    "Get it while you can"
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2012
    Here is the review I referenced above.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/14/DDIE1NJ6RN.DTL

    "First, this is the debut release from the trove of live recordings made by fabled sound engineer Augustus Owsley Stanley III, who went by the name Bear and was better known as a manufacturer of LSD, but also was an unsung pioneer of modern concert audio. "

    "In truth, Big Brother performances did not rise or fall so much on Joplin's performances as the performance of lead guitarist James Gurley, who at his best was a mighty figure to behold....... Bear captured one of Gurley's greatest performances on this Saturday night - the solo on "Summertime" is nothing short of hair-raising, but he is on fire from start to finish. "

    "Bear presents all this glory without the slightest bit of signal processing. Acoustic science genius John Meyer contributes liner notes suggesting listeners push their stereo speakers together to get the full effect of Bear's unique stereo recording strategy. Bear's refusal to overdub phony applause, which has the effect of losing the audience almost entirely from the recording, flies in the face of record industry convention, but most live albums are phony affairs, brushed up and patched in studios long after they were originally recorded. Not Bear's.

    This is like standing in the room with Big Brother and the Holding Company- or as close as you'll ever get."
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited March 2012
    There're some great live vids of JJ on youtube. Thanks for the CD heads up !
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited March 2012
    I will also be getting this one, I to read that James Gurley was on his game that show.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,340
    edited March 2012
    I really enjoyed "Cheap Thrills" back in the day. This new release has a lot of the same material. They were an exciting band. Janis' voice can get on your nerves at times! :twisted:
    Carl

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited March 2012
    On order, thanks. :cool:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2012
    ordered--thanks for the heads up
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited March 2012
    Thanks for the heads up. Saw a special on JJ and BB a couple years ago, and I had forgotten what a tight band they were. IMHO she wasn't as good when she went on her own.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited March 2012
    I'll have to pick this one up. Can't say I'm a rabid JJ fan, but they certainly have their place in history and I always enjoy a great live concert from this era. It piqued my interest because of "Bear's" leaving it bare bones with no processing or fixing up. I absolutely love raw live recordings that are basically untouched or just with a little polish added to smooth out the rough edges here and there.

    I have several Hendrix bootlegs that were then officially released and in most cases I prefer the bootleg for it's authenticity and period style and sound. Not to say the "official" releases are crap, but a lot of the Hendrix bootlegs are pretty well recorded. He loved to jam anytime, anywhere and he always had a tape recorder running.

    The Berkley and Winterland concerts are a few that come to mind where the bootleg is better than the official release. The vibe and general atmosphere is better captured in the raw bootleg recordings. I would expect the same kind of listening experience with the Janis/Holding Co. cd.

    Just put it in my Amazon basket.

    H9
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited March 2012
    If the CD sounds good, I bet the vinyl would be even better. We'll see.
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited March 2012
    I got mine in today and listened to some of it on the way home in the truck. Wide dynamic range on it so watch the volume. It would be best to put away the moldy cheese and merlot and roll a couple to get the full effects. It will take you back to a defined era for sure. Maybe I can find time to listen some more a little later.
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited March 2012
    Mine will arrive Thursday, looking forward to it, another hot recording you say, will have to watch the volume on yet another:mad:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2012
    I listened to half the other night. Parts are really good, some not so, but what do you expect from a recording made in the late 60s. One point for me was I wished my preamp had a switch to make it mono. The singing and the drums are in the left speaker, and the rest of the band is in the right.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I'll have to pick this one up. Can't say I'm a rabid JJ fan, but they certainly have their place in history and I always enjoy a great live concert from this era. It piqued my interest because of "Bear's" leaving it bare bones with no processing or fixing up. I absolutely love raw live recordings that are basically untouched or just with a little polish added to smooth out the rough edges here and there.

    I have several Hendrix bootlegs that were then officially released and in most cases I prefer the bootleg for it's authenticity and period style and sound. Not to say the "official" releases are crap, but a lot of the Hendrix bootlegs are pretty well recorded. He loved to jam anytime, anywhere and he always had a tape recorder running.

    The Berkley and Winterland concerts are a few that come to mind where the bootleg is better than the official release. The vibe and general atmosphere is better captured in the raw bootleg recordings. I would expect the same kind of listening experience with the Janis/Holding Co. cd.

    Just put it in my Amazon basket.

    H9

    Yep,, the Berkley and Winterland vinyl certaily capture the momoent and the realism--can you pick up on the vibe.:exclaim:
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I listened to half the other night. Parts are really good, some not so, but what do you expect from a recording made in the late 60s. One point for me was I wished my preamp had a switch to make it mono. The singing and the drums are in the left speaker, and the rest of the band is in the right.

    Yeah, that's not unusual for that time period. I've heard this effect on a number of '60s classics. And as for Janis, the women lived for her art and you can "hear" it, if you are "old" enough. Youngsters!

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I listened to half the other night. Parts are really good, some not so, but what do you expect from a recording made in the late 60s. One point for me was I wished my preamp had a switch to make it mono. The singing and the drums are in the left speaker, and the rest of the band is in the right.
    That smacks of an old processing technique to produce 2-ch strereo from a mono master. Some early Beatles material later released in "stereo" was like that.

    Then again, maybe that's what it was like "to be there"... :cool:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited March 2012
    Guys,,got mine and if I understand it correctly,,it is suggested that you move the speakers(L&R) close to each other kinda "point source like" to experience it like Owsley "heard" it at the time.I hope what I said makes sense,,it did to me when I read it.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2012
    ..it is suggested that you move the speakers(L&R) close to each other ...

    Easier said than done. :biggrin:

    However, I bet it would sound pretty good that way.
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    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited March 2012
    george daniel wrote: »
    Guys,,got mine and if I understand it correctly,,it is suggested that you move the speakers(L&R) close to each other kinda "point source like" to experience it like Owsley "heard" it at the time.I hope what I said makes sense,,it did to me when I read it.

    I tried that but it just made a big mess in the car, LOL. But seriously, enjoyed the performance a lot, raw and unprocessed. I thought the audio was fairly clean an interesting relic of the time. :cool:
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