the right rtia towers for my setup??

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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited March 2012
    To the Op get yourself a Pair of Rti'a5s and a decent sub, those A5s and A3s with that Csia6 will be a great Ht setup, what Pioneer reciever do you have?
    Home Theater
    Parasound Halo A 31 OnkyoTX-NR838 Sony XBR55X850B 55" 4K RtiA9 Fronts CsiA6 Center RtiA3 Rears FxiA6 Side Surrounds Dual Psw 111's Oppo 105D Signal Ultra Speaker Cables & IC's Signal Magic Power Cable Technics SL Q300 Panamax MR4300 Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables Audioquest Forest USB Cable

    2 Channel
    Adcom 555II Vincent SA-T1 Marantz SA 15S2 Denon DR-M11 Clearaudio Bluemotion SDA 2.3tl's (Z) edition MIT Terminator II Speaker Cables & IC's Adcom 545II Adcom Gtp-450 Marantz CD5004 Technics M245X SDA 2B's, SDA CRS+

    Stuff for the Head
    JD LABS C5 Headphone Amplifier, Sennheiser HD 598, Polk Audio Buckle, Polk Audio Hinge, Velodyne vPulse, Bose IE2, Sennheiser CX 200 Street II, Sennheiser MX 365

    Shower & Off the beaten path Rigs
    Polk Audio Boom Swimmer, Polk Audio Urchin B)
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  • ft_townman
    ft_townman Posts: 30
    edited March 2012
    Wow a lot has happened since my last post. Once again thanks for replying everyone. After reading all this I dnt care what ravenelli is saying. If you want to make a point that's fine but back up your statement dude.

    I currently am running a pioneer VSX 1021 receiver. I plan to upgrade to an elite so I can run an amp. For some reason the emotiva xpa3 isn't powerful enough for some reasn according to ravenelli. I take it from the other postings he iswrong?? What is the power handling capability of the A5's?? It seems my receiver could use help from an amp already. After adding the high A3's to make it a 7.1 I noticed I had to turn the volume up by about 10 to 12 notches than I had previously. It sounds great now but I know there is a higher capability with these speakers and I aim to get there
    SAMSUNG LCD--52", 240hz
    Panamax 5300PM--Power Conditioner
    CSIa6--Center Channel
    RTIa3--Front High Channels
    FXIa6-- Rear Channels
    Sony--3-way Tower Speakers (20yrs old)
    DSW pro 500--Subwoofer
    PIONEER 1021-K--7.1 Reciever
    My Own Custom Audioquest 14/4--Speaker Cables
    Audioquest--Cinnamon HDMI Cables
    Sony--PS3

    eventually i will own the RTIa9's but for now im using20 year old sony 3way towers.:mad:

    STILL NEED:
    Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver with pre-outs
    Emotiva XPA-3 Amplifier
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  • tommyt21
    tommyt21 Posts: 685
    edited March 2012
    ft_townman wrote: »
    Wow a lot has happened since my last post. Once again thanks for replying everyone. After reading all this I dnt care what ravenelli is saying. If you want to make a point that's fine but back up your statement dude.

    I currently am running a pioneer VSX 1021 receiver. I plan to upgrade to an elite so I can run an amp. For some reason the emotiva xpa3 isn't powerful enough for some reasn according to ravenelli. I take it from the other postings he iswrong?? What is the power handling capability of the A5's?? It seems my receiver could use help from an amp already. After adding the high A3's to make it a 7.1 I noticed I had to turn the volume up by about 10 to 12 notches than I had previously. It sounds great now but I know there is a higher capability with these speakers and I aim to get there

    I am currently running a 7.1 with RTI A7's upfront set to large with a Pioneer Elite SC-35 @ 140 watts per channel of Ice amp power. It is plenty of power for my setup. I have inquired about getting a amp but its not necessary.
    I ran that same reciever with my monitor system and I got my SC-35 a few days before I got my a7's so I hooked it up and there was a clear jump in clarity and sound quality. I did not even try the 1021 with my a7's because I new if there was that kind of jump with the monitors there was no way that 1021 was going to power my RTI's properly. Those Emotiva amps and the Rti seem to be very common together and no one I have seen has complained. In fact there are a few youtube vids of people bragging about a Rti/Emotiva setups.
    What are you looking to spend to get some power?
    Living Room
    Fronts: RTi A7's
    Center: Csi A6 VR3 "Fortress Plus"
    Front Heights: Rti A1
    Surrounds: Rti A3
    Sub: HSU VTF-2 MK4 Damn this is a good SUB
    Pioneer Pioneer Elite: SC-35-> Emotiva XPA-3
    TV: Lg LW6500 55" Passive 3D
    Blu-Ray Panasonic BD 210
    XboX 360 Slim/Kinect

    Acoustimac red suede panels
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited March 2012
    tommyt21 wrote: »
    I am currently running a 7.1 with RTI A7's upfront set to large with a Pioneer Elite SC-35 @ 140 watts per channel of Ice amp power. It is plenty of power for my setup.

    I've heard nothing but solid positives on the ICE amps. Very capable power.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,011
    edited March 2012
    ft_townman wrote: »
    Wow a lot has happened since my last post. Once again thanks for replying everyone. After reading all this I dnt care what ravenelli is saying. If you want to make a point that's fine but back up your statement dude.

    I currently am running a pioneer VSX 1021 receiver. I plan to upgrade to an elite so I can run an amp. For some reason the emotiva xpa3 isn't powerful enough for some reasn according to ravenelli. I take it from the other postings he iswrong?? What is the power handling capability of the A5's?? It seems my receiver could use help from an amp already. After adding the high A3's to make it a 7.1 I noticed I had to turn the volume up by about 10 to 12 notches than I had previously. It sounds great now but I know there is a higher capability with these speakers and I aim to get there

    The Emo has more than enough for those speakers, even though it wouldn't be my first choice. The 1021 in surround mode is most likely only tossing out 40 watts per channel if your using 7 channels, so turning up the volume means that it's working that much harder to get to the same SPL's/volume.

    Look for a used Pioneer Elite with the ice amps in them, should take care of your power needs for a long time.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • ft_townman
    ft_townman Posts: 30
    edited March 2012
    i have been reading some on the "ice amps" in pioneer receivers. im not familiar with which model is reasonably priced used or new that has the ice amp technology. i sent a request to pioneer and asked all the receivers that offer the ice amp technology. so will see what happens. do the ice amps really negate the need for an external amplifier when running A9's or is it best to get an external amp to CORRECTLY push them?
    SAMSUNG LCD--52", 240hz
    Panamax 5300PM--Power Conditioner
    CSIa6--Center Channel
    RTIa3--Front High Channels
    FXIa6-- Rear Channels
    Sony--3-way Tower Speakers (20yrs old)
    DSW pro 500--Subwoofer
    PIONEER 1021-K--7.1 Reciever
    My Own Custom Audioquest 14/4--Speaker Cables
    Audioquest--Cinnamon HDMI Cables
    Sony--PS3

    eventually i will own the RTIa9's but for now im using20 year old sony 3way towers.:mad:

    STILL NEED:
    Pioneer Elite 7.1 Receiver with pre-outs
    Emotiva XPA-3 Amplifier
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,990
    edited March 2012
    Man I hate how this thread got derailed by passionate, but opinionated Polkies.

    Ft_townman, I re-read all your posts. I agree you should upgrade your electronics - AVR w/external amp flexibility. My point of confusion: your indecisiveness for your LRs - the 'A5s or 'A9s. If you think your final HT space will require more than the s, go for 7s or 9s. Otherwise you could overwhelm your space.

    You may the find 'A5 mid/upper bass to lower midrange lacking. Likely overwhelmed by the middle midrange to lower treble, an RTi A series characteristic. I think Trey (VR3) could do his "magic" to your satisfaction!

    Some side notes: Several years ago I talked to a Polk CSR. He told me the 5s: close to a verticle CSi A6 w/drivers rearranged. Or a 2.5 'A3
    7s: A3s w/2 7" subs. Since purchase I've discovered the mids & subs do NOT have separate chambers. I plan to change that soon.
    9s: a verticle CSi A4 w/3 7" subs
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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  • mralexny
    mralexny Posts: 39
    edited April 2012
    How do you plan to change the internal chambering of the a7?
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Man I hate how this thread got derailed by passionate, but opinionated Polkies.

    Ft_townman, I re-read all your posts. I agree you should upgrade your electronics - AVR w/external amp flexibility. My point of confusion: your indecisiveness for your LRs - the 'A5s or 'A9s. If you think your final HT space will require more than the s, go for 7s or 9s. Otherwise you could overwhelm your space.

    You may the find 'A5 mid/upper bass to lower midrange lacking. Likely overwhelmed by the middle midrange to lower treble, an RTi A series characteristic. I think Trey (VR3) could do his "magic" to your satisfaction!

    Some side notes: Several years ago I talked to a Polk CSR. He told me the 5s: close to a verticle CSi A6 w/drivers rearranged. Or a 2.5 'A3
    7s: A3s w/2 7" subs. Since purchase I've discovered the mids & subs do NOT have separate chambers. I plan to change that soon.
    9s: a verticle CSi A4 w/3 7" subs
    Current Configurations
    Master Bed room:
    Polk Audio RTI A7
    Nad 1155 Preamp
    Nad Stereo Tuner 4155
    2 Cerwin Vega CV-1800
    Panasonic 42 inch
    PS3
    Apple Ipad 3
    Pure i-20
    Alienware X51
    DBX 234xs


    Living Room:
    Bose 301's
    Nad 1155 Preamp
    Nad 2200 Power Amp
    Nad Stereo Tuner 4130
    Panasonic 50 inch
    Sony DVD Player
    Apple iTouch 4
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,011
    edited April 2012
    Personally Tony, I think you'd be opening a can of worms trying to redo the internals of the cabinet. Why not just get different speakers bro ? Save yourself the headaches. Better yet, build your own, plenty of DIY kits on the market with pre built cabinets that you could modify to your hearts content, and throw in the parts yourself.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,990
    edited April 2012
    Apologies to the OP for hijacking this thread
    mralexny wrote: »
    How do you plan to change the internal chambering of the a7?
    Still working on the details. Inside the the 'A7 you'll find a bracing ridge all the way around the closure just below the MW's port. I want to use something w/that brace to close off the "top*" from the "bottom*." The trick is getting the (sturdy) part inside. Working on a 2 piece tongue & groove
    * top = MW; bottom = Subs
    tonyb wrote: »
    Personally Tony, I think you'd be opening a can of worms trying to redo the internals of the cabinet.
    You're probably more right than I'm willing to admit. Someone suggested it could change the mid's voiceing. Then again over the past 3 years I've seen many Polksters expend more $ & time for less benefit than this should net.
    tonyb wrote: »
    Why not just get different speakers bro? Save yourself the headaches.
    I love the 'A7 platform; $ didn't govern my choosing the '7 over the '9* regardless what its* fan base claims.
    tonyb wrote: »
    Better yet, build your own...
    Nope. Tools or lack of.
    tonyb wrote: »
    ...plenty of DIY kits on the market with pre-built cabinets...
    Remote possibilty. If you were considering DIY where would you start? Thanks in advance.

    the other Tony
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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