Rti A7 or Monitor 70's?

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

Read this again. This is what made u all pile on the beloved RTi A line. That's all you needed to make a judgment.

And Geofff, my man, sorry, someone had to say it. You are a little bit too full of your superamped boomboxes lol

Yes, I see what you're saying. Your sense of style clearly exceeds 1st class standards, all while you're bobbing for apples in a back woods out house.

tommyt21

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Yes, I see what you're saying. Your sense of style clearly exceeds 1st class standards, all while you're bobbing for apples in a back woods out house.

Dang it Geoff I just spit out my soda...:cheesygrin:

pyrocyborg

I thought RTiA9/RTi12 were as bright as those other RTi speakers... until I listened at them with proper amplification. They are as smooth as my LSi, but have way more bass... lol... So yeah, they're musical: different from the LSi line, but nothing harsh, quite pleasing to the ears.

As for Sibiliance, it's either because the room has a lot of reflective surfaces, or because the singer itself has a tendency to "hisssss". Sure, the RTi line is a tad on the bright side, but most hissing can be cured with proper placement and windows treatment... Even a "smooth" speaker can have an hissing sound if nothing is took care of.

And Monitor aren't crappy speakers btw, no one really told that. We simply pointed out that for a little bit more money, you can have a better speaker (either Polk or insert your favorite brand). If you do not take budget into consideration, sure the RTi are better... If any of my previous message looked like I was bashing Monitor/TSi line, please excuse me, as it was not the case. I only pointed out that I prefered RTi to them, and... I prefer the LSi line to the RTi too!... and I prefered a B&W PM1 to my LSi7...

Are the RTiA9 godly speakers? No, but they're a good price/performance/look ratio speaker. Sure, there is speakers that are more musical or accurate than these for the same price or a little bit more... but we could always end saying something like that, whatever speaker someone would choose. What is more important is that someone is happy with it's speakers (i.e. he likes it's sound... as you know, everything's subjective when it comes to sound and musical tastes).

pyrocyborg

ravaneli wrote: »

I will bet you a dollar that Polk has sold 5 Monitor towers for every RTiA tower sold. Are you arrogant enough to claim that they all did a mistake (the monitor buyers)?

This argument is like saying that "I bet you that Honda sold 5 times more Civic than S2000 (when they were still made)."... Sure most company sell more entry-level stuff than mid or high-end one, because either most people don't have the money for their higher-end stuff, or they don't care (i.e. they do not need it).

Is buying an entry-level item a mistake? Hell no! But if you don't mind my car analogy, I don't think someone could seriously think that someone could say that a Civic is either a luxury or sport car. It's an affordable entry-level "budget minded" car, exactly how I would call the Monitor/TSi line... The RTi is an entry-level sport car, brute force at a reasonnable price while the LSi could be the entry luxury level car, more refined, but still using "cheaper" materials and have a more modest performance when compared to any exotic car ("2500-3000$+ speakers").

jbooker82

ravaneli wrote: »

Read this again. This is what made u all pile on the beloved RTi A line. That's all you needed to make a judgment.

Well he wasnt concernd with price difference if he is considering RTi A7's or Monitor 70's. What benifet would the Montior 70's have over RTi A7's?

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

Read this again. This is what made u all pile on the beloved RTi A line. That's all you needed to make a judgment.

Okay, very slow this time, for the short bus rider.

The question, M70 or RTiA7, was asked, because the OP knew that MOST members here would already know the difference between the two speakers, and given a choice, which would be that choice.

Everyone that knows the characteristics and sound of the two speakers in question, naturally chose the RTiA7, AS IT IS the better speaker, AS IT IS the better speaker!!!!

The OP went on to admit "a" salesman misled him by saying they were the same, but the M70 was better due to the lower price. The OP's skepticism brought him here to ask the question which a lot of us gave him our honest answer.

So for you to rant the way you did makes absolutely no sense at all.

michael1947

I use M70's, CS2's and some really great M40's in my downstairs rigs. I really like them. Someone compared the M3 to the Civic and if the Monitor 70 is the Civic then buy them all day long as they will provide years of good service and won't break. If you need to impress car people then buy an M3.

tommyt21

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Okay, very slow this time, for the short bus rider.

The question, M70 or RTiA7, was asked, because the OP knew that MOST members here would already know the difference between the two speakers, and given a choice, which would be that choice.

Everyone that knows the characteristics and sound of the two speakers in question, naturally chose the RTiA7, AS IT IS the better speaker, AS IT IS the better speaker!!!!

The OP went on to admit "a" salesman misled him by saying they were the same, but the M70 was better due to the lower price. The OP's skepticism brought him here to ask the question which a lot of us gave him our honest answer.

So for you to rant the way you did makes absolutely no sense at all.

Well said Geoff, well said

pyrocyborg

michael1947 wrote: »

I use M70's, CS2's and some really great M40's in my downstairs rigs. I really like them. Someone compared the M3 to the Civic and if the Monitor 70 is the Civic then buy them all day long as they will provide years of good service and won't break. If you need to impress car people then buy an M3.

Exactly. For most people, a Civic is a good reliable car that will last for years. It goes the same for the Monitor series: While not a high-end speaker by itself, it offers modest performance at a cheap price with known reliability from Polk, even if they are made in China (had no trouble yet with any of my recent Polkies in years). As it is the case for cars, I do not think that higher-end speakers are for everyone. I'm somehow looking for the same thing in both, a good performance/price ratio: while not being the cheapest thing ever (even if I know there is some very good budget mindet cars and speakers out there... the Monitor is one of them). I wouldn't buy something more than an entry-luxury level AWD sport sedan, first off, because I woudln't have the money for more... And it's fine by be! But many people wouldn't even go up to a 20k car, because they don't care about luxury options, even if they have the money.

We all have our priorities in life: However, I do not think that someone out there can tell everyone that the Monitor70 is "the best speaker ever", as you can read on many reviews. It can be the best budget speaker for your money, but it won't be the best out there. It goes the same for any Polk speaker anyways (not that they're bad, but there is some 2-4k speakers that are smoother and more musical/detailed than them).

Soooo... could we just talk about anything else, I think everyone got their point. There is no need to bash anyone! Happy everyone, and enjoy your music/movies/gaming ... and your car too ! :cheesygrin:

ravaneli

lol you guys are such a cheerleader pack : )

Now give me "P"! Give me "O"!

heiney9

Imagine that...............people who like POLK on a POLK AUDIO forum.........whodda thunk! Proposterous

H9

Upstatemax

ravaneli wrote: »

Although I would get the M60 - identical speaker, much cheaper, and if u didn't get something with 3 drivers I seriously doubt you will get it with 4

This statement alone shows how little you know...

ravaneli

Upstatemax wrote: »

This statement alone shows how little you know...

Alright, all sarcasm aside, I always wondered what't the point of the 4th one. May be I missed something in the specs. What is it, that gave out how little I know?

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

Alright, all sarcasm aside, I always wondered what't the point of the 4th one. May be I missed something in the specs. What is it, that gave out how little I know?

Point in case, there was no sarcasm. And sorry, don't flatter yourself. If you're looking for a stalker, go bobbing for apples somewhere else.

Your opinion concerning my set up is about as bright as the light you claim to bring, fading and flickering, but please, don't let the obvious stand your way, continue to entertain.

ken brydson

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Okay, very slow this time, for the short bus rider

Dude, we need to hook up for a beer sometime, I'm in Puyallup. Like your style....

Geoff4rfc

ken brydson wrote: »

Dude, we need to hook up for a beer sometime, I'm in Puyallup. Like your style....

Hey what's up Ken! I'm down, having an ice cold one as we speak.

I lived in Sumner for awhile. I love that area. My wife, not so down, she's a city girl.

One thing I noticed, the 4x4's are crazy in that neck of the woods, even the girls drive bigger trucks than my F-150.

You know, I was looking at your screen name and thinking how familiar it looked. I did a lot motorcycle racing at Pacific, you do any hanging around out there?

ken brydson

Geoff4rfc wrote: »

Hey what's up Ken! I'm down, having an ice cold one as we speak.

I lived in Sumner for awhile. I love that area. My wife, not so down, she's a city girl.

One thing I noticed, the 4x4's are crazy in that neck of the woods, even the girls drive bigger trucks than my F-150.

You know, I was looking at your screen name and thinking how familiar it looked. I did a lot motorcycle racing at Pacific, you do any hanging around out there?

We like it out here. Not me at Pacific though...

Geoff4rfc

ken brydson wrote: »

Dude, we need to hook up for a beer sometime, I'm in Puyallup. Like your style....

Well, I'm off for the next couple of weeks. I'll be pretty busy getting my honey do list up to snuff but I will need to take a break now and then. Shoot me a PM

Catch you later

Upstatemax

ravaneli wrote: »

Alright, all sarcasm aside, I always wondered what't the point of the 4th one. May be I missed something in the specs. What is it, that gave out how little I know?

The thing I find funny is that you're attacking people for suggesting the A7's over the M70's like it was just some blind and zero reasoning suggestion.

Yet you blindly look at two speakers of the same series and assume Polk just said "what the hell, throw another driver in there and charge more"!

The M60's --> M70's is not just another driver. Let's forget everything that has to go into the cabinet design to achieve a quality speaker like the M70, and that the M60's have a 5.25" drivers while the M70's have 6.5" drivers...

You're over looking a CASCADE TAPERED ARRAY CROSSOVER.

That crossover gives the M70's a more defined and controlled bottom end with a great midrange. The M70's imaging is a thing of beauty for it's price range. Something I found lacking in the lower end Monitors.

NOT a small difference

ravaneli

Wow, that crossover must be a big thing.

But why didn't they make the M70 with just 3 drivers and the same crossover? What does the 4th identical driver add? I am not heckling, just asking. It would still be an upgrade over the M60 even with three drivers, because they are bigger and have that fancy crossover. But they put 4.

jbooker82

Probably so each driver could operate at a narrower frequency range.

Upstatemax

ravaneli wrote: »

Wow, that crossover must be a big thing.

But why didn't they make the M70 with just 3 drivers and the same crossover? What does the 4th identical driver add? I am not heckling, just asking. It would still be an upgrade over the M60 even with three drivers, because they are bigger and have that fancy crossover. But they put 4.

IIRC, the bottom two drivers were just for the low end, while the top driver was strictly midrange and the second driver was used to blend mid to low.

In reality the added driver for the m70's was not for bigger bass, it's for blending the mids to lows and the reason they have such a great soundstage.

pstrev

fonso wrote: »

thanks guys. Salems person tried telling me that they were the same and that the monitor 70's were better since they cost lest. I was skeptical and thought i ask to confirm he didnt know what he was talking about

Which store?
I always take advice from salespeople with a grain of salt. They usually have a second agenda. I get more reliable info on forums, like this here one.

Enjoy your rtiA7's.

Pat

boomerfss

I have the M70's as part of my 7.1 setup. I have been very happy with them (primarily HT and video games for usage). I think they are good value for the money. If you have the money to spend, I would go for the RTiA 7's. If you are on a budget, the M70's are pretty darn good as well.