Rti A7 or Monitor 70's?

fonso

RTi A7 or Monitor 70?

jbooker82

RTI A7's, no brainer. Larger speakers from a lower series wont out do the A7's.

I would take RTI A5's or A3's (with a good sub) over the Monitor 70's as well.

bobsauto49

Rti series all day long! I have owned the M70's and have heard the RtiA series,and theres no comparision! Even the old Rti series is light years ahead in absolute sound quality! I've heard them all,and just my opinion!

Upstatemax

I've owned both and It's the A7's all day long...

nhhiep

is this a trick question?

Geoff4rfc

I own both the M70's and the RTiA9's. I can tell you right now without ever hearing the A7's they're going to blow the M70's out of the water.

Besides, don't you already own the CSiA6? It should be a no brainer.

WagBoss

You're comparing 500 dollar speakers to 150 dollar speakers, obviously rti a7 are many times better, but you can't beat the price of m70s. it really just depends on your budget

pyrocyborg

Pricewise, it's like comparing an Honda Civic to a BMW M3...

tonyb

If your a foodie like me, thats like saying spam or steak.

Geoff4rfc

tonyb wrote: »

If your a foodie like me, thats like saying spam or steak.

Heyyyyy, I happen to like spam, fried, with eggs up and with hashbrowns with onions and peppers.

I like my left over steak chopped, in a soft flour tortilla with fresh cilantro and onion and just a tad bit of crumbled goganzola.

Stilly74

Sick!!!

jbooker82

Stilly74 wrote: »

Sick!!!

x2!!

Tankman

tonyb wrote: »

If your a foodie like me, thats like saying spam or steak.

...Lolo.

fonso

thanks guys. Salems person tried telling me that they were the same and that the monitor 70's were better since they cost lest. I was skeptical and thought i ask to confirm he didnt know what he was talking about

Geoff4rfc

Stilly74 wrote: »

Sick!!!

jbooker82 wrote: »

x2!!

What?! The breakfast or the taco? Both of you boy's palets are deprived.

fonso wrote: »

thanks guys. Salems person tried telling me that they were the same and that the monitor 70's were better since they cost lest. I was skeptical and thought i ask to confirm he didnt know what he was talking about

That salesman is mentally deprived.

cnh

M-70s have taken a beating in recent threads. They're not a bad speaker for HT, even some music occasionally.

Not fair, though, to compare them to Rti-A7s (look at the price difference).

I'm one of the few here that actually prefer the M-70s to Rti-8s, and Rti-A3s. They do some things right and are little less 'hot' up top. But that's a subjective preference.

What I like best of the modern Polk series I own are my LSi-7s, that vifa puts a hurting on the Rti tweeters for music.

M-70s still a good buy at price point. But if you have the opportunity to go A7 or ESPECIALLY A9 (A9s are really the "best" of the lot), go for it!

cnh

pyrocyborg

cnh wrote: »

M-70s have taken a beating in recent threads. They're not a bad speaker for HT, even some music occasionally.

I totally agree, pricewise, they are great. However, considering the RTi line is only a small step increase in price (RTI... but not the RTiA...), I do not know if the Monitor line is a killer deal.

Anyways...I didn't want to bash the Monitor line in my last post. All I wanted to say is that for my tastes, I prefer paying a lil' bit more for the RTi (for me, the price difference between a pair of Monitor bookshelf and RTi bookshelf was less than 20$). Are the Monitor/TSi ugly dogs? No, but they're less a "bang for your buck" when you compare them to the clearance RTi and LSi line. Properly powered, they can shine, but so are the RTi and LSi line speakers.

As everyone has different tastes, needs and budget, they can be an adequate option expecially for HT on a budget.

To OP: Yeah, the salesman is... (I won't be as harsh as geoff...) uninformed, I would say. I will not bash anyone, but I think he probably thought that the RTiA line replaced the Monitor line (because let's be honest, the old RTi line looks like the Monitor line, except for the real wood veneer... maybe he just didn't know a lot about this).

If you can find a pair of RTi10, go for it! Try ebay "PolkDirect". First of all, you should listen at a pair of RTiA7 (the RTi10 are the older model of the RTiA7): they mostly sound the same, just less aesthetically "pleasant". If you like them, you could get a refurbished pair of RTi10 for a little bit more than a pair of Monitor70.

Just make sure you have plenty of power to drive them... (external amplifier, or beefy receiver, if possible)

ravaneli

The way the original question was stated makes all answers irrelevant anyway. One needs to know more than that before the answer would mean anything. I can create 10 situations where the M70 would be a better choice (Although I would get the M60 - identical speaker, much cheaper, and if u didn't get something with 3 drivers I seriously doubt you will get it with 4).
What if my girlfriend or grandparents asked me to pick speakers for them to watch TV. My gf has absolutely no appreciation for the sound of the A7s. She said 'wow, it can go so loud'. I almost threw the remote on her.
There are many people that can't spend 1000 on a couple of towers, the superior quality of the sound of which they will never detect. It's like showing a Picaso picture to a blind man.
It is called marginal utility of money. It is unique to every single individual. Without any information on that it's like saying that the blue car is better than the red car without even knowing brand or model.

tommyt21

ravaneli wrote: »

The way the original question was stated makes all answers irrelevant anyway. One needs to know more than that before the answer would mean anything. I can create 10 situations where the M70 would be a better choice (Although I would get the M60 - identical speaker, much cheaper, and if u didn't get something with 3 drivers I seriously doubt you will get it with 4).
What if my girlfriend or grandparents asked me to pick speakers for them to watch TV. My gf has absolutely no appreciation for the sound of the A7s. She said 'wow, it can go so loud'. I almost threw the remote on her.
There are many people that can't spend 1000 on a couple of towers, the superior quality of the sound of which they will never detect. It's like showing a Picaso picture to a blind man.
It is called marginal utility of money. It is unique to every single individual. Without any information on that it's like saying that the blue car is better than the red car without even knowing brand or model.

WOW:eek:

pyrocyborg

ravaneli wrote: »

There are many people that can't spend 1000 on a couple of towers, the superior quality of the sound of which they will never detect. It's like showing a Picaso picture to a blind man.

Well, I'm sure most people can detect that difference if they actually wanted to (attention)... the real question is: do they care? My GF do not, even if she can perceive that my LSi7 are way better that most speakers she ever heard (considering she probably never heard a lot of different speakers :cheesygrin:) and different sounding than my RTi. Using adequate gear, most people can hear a difference between a CD and a 128 mp3, except people with hearing impairment. However, do everyone care? Not at all!

For most, something better than a cheap TV integrated speakers is more than adequate; that's why they go for HTIB. For people wanting a little bit more, they can try an entry level speaker set.

I didn't know about the marginal utility term, but I would say as I already said: everybody has differents needs and tastes. Some people will never buy anything higher than a 15k car, even if they earn more than 350 000 per year... So, as long as you have quality stuff (i.e. not crappy sounding speakers that won't last more than a year), I guess you're good to go

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

One needs to know more than that before the answer would mean anything.

More than even you know!

Geoff4rfc

pyrocyborg wrote: »

To OP: Yeah, the salesman is... (I won't be as harsh as geoff...)

Hey, at least I didn't say "Tard" or "Idiot". Maybe I should've said, Educationally challenged.

jbooker82

ravaneli wrote: »

I can create 10 situations where the M70 would be a better choice

Like what, submerging the speaker under water and cranking the volume up to make ripples on the surface?

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

I can create 10 situations where the M70 would be a better choice.

Duct taping large stones to the drivers.

tonyb

10 situations......I can't think of one.....outside of price. But then, you wouldn't ask that question to begin with on an audio forum if price was your only concern. Assuming one knows 3rd grade math.

ravaneli

I will bet you a dollar that Polk has sold 5 Monitor towers for every RTiA tower sold. Are you arrogant enough to claim that they all did a mistake (the monitor buyers)? You know better than them what they should buy in their own situation? You should go work for the government, they are in that business, telling people what is good for them and what they can and cannot do.
Just think about this for a second. A guy tells you Monitor or RTi, and nothing else, and you all jump on the RTi wagon, never asking a question, never caring about people's income or priorities in life. You ipso-facto called every single buyer of Monitor towers a fool, given that your preference is unconditional.

And Geoff.. the A9s are not "too good". That is the one thing that is sure. Sorry to pop your buble. You can put 1,000 watts into them and they will never play music well. How do u like the sssss in songs? As far as true reproduction there are many speakers out there that will humiliate the RTi A line, some in similar price range, some more expensive. Why don't we all buy the best sounding speakers and call it a day? There is more to it than just quality, and if you can't recognize something as simple as that, then I am wasting my time trying to pass a message to you

Geoff4rfc

ravaneli wrote: »

And Geoff.. the A9s are not "too good". That is the one thing that is sure. Sorry to pop your buble. You can put 1,000 watts into them and they will never play music well. How do u like the sssss in songs? As far as true reproduction there are many speakers out there that will humiliate the RTi A line, some in similar price range, some more expensive. Why don't we all buy the best sounding speakers and call it a day? There is more to it than just quality, and if you can't recognize something as simple as that, then I am wasting my time trying to pass a message to you

Really dude? You completely missed the point of that thread. And for me to take the time to explain it to you would obviously be a waste of my time.

You seem to be the one in a bubble and it definitely needs to be popped.

It's very apparent by your posts, that your perception of how anything works, electronic and life related are shared only by you. To say the A9's will never play music well, just shows, and I'll try not to be too harsh here, how misguided and misrepresented you are.

Why don't you just stick to throwing your remote at your girl friend and making customer service women cry, you're certainly good at that.

tommyt21

Raveneli, just a fair warning, platitudes and assertions that are your own delivered as fact will quickly get you torched in these threads.(trust me I know) Your opinion of the A9's is yours and do not reflect what many others think about them. Audio is 90-100% perception of the listener. As far as caring about peoples incomes or priorities in life thats none of my damn business.

cnh

WOW! What brought all this on? No one ever said people who bought Monitor towers are fools? Just that higher series RTis might be better. And certainly the A9s which are over twice the MSRP of M-70s and probably more like three or four times that if you consider how cheaply you can pick up a set of M-70s these days!

What's the point of trashing Rti-A9s? Almost no one here takes such comments seriously!

My entire upstairs HT is an M-70 based system and it does a fabulous job for that. It is NOT my primary go to for two channel though. If you were going to combine two channel with surround you'd be much better off with the Rti-A9s up front and more power.

Sibilance in the A9s? Really?

cnh

Geoff4rfc

cnh wrote: »

WOW! What brought all this on?

Ravioli is just a hot head, he obviously mistook this thread for being female customer service rep.

ravaneli

fonso wrote: »

RTi A7 or Monitor 70?

Read this again. This is what made u all pile on the beloved RTi A line. That's all you needed to make a judgment.

And Geofff, my man, sorry, someone had to say it. You are a little bit too full of your superamped boomboxes lol