Multi-Channel Question
smglbrth
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Hello All.
Well, figured I'd be the experiment with a new BD player (since no-one seemed to have one), the Yamaha BD-A1010 (review coming later on). I hooked it up last night and everything worked, like it should. However, the bass seemed pretty heavy when compared to my Pioneer 51FD. So..., I did what any sane person would do and turned it down. However, it got me thinking. Since I am using the 7.1/5.1 analog outputs of the Yami to the receiver, the receiver (older Oinker with no HDMI, also no variable sub crossover settings) is not doing any bass crossover management of it's own because I am utilitzing the 7.1/5.1 inputs. Is this correct? The new BD player also does not have the option of different sub crossover settings, hence my question. If the receiver isn't doing anything with the sub frequencies (i.e. - multi-channel in and out, straight through) and I can't change it in the player do I need to change the crossover setting on the sub itself (on the 51FD I set it at 80Hz, on the player menu)? Just leave it alone and keep messing with the volume? I do have the sub hooked up from the receiver utilizing the LFE feature.
Isn't it funny when you have a question and even though you get close to answering it from the internet "database" it seems no-one has a scenario quite like you do?
I know I had a couple people recommend the Oppo but everyone needs to try something different so please don't say "you should have bought the Oppo", please, no firebranding.
Any help would be appreciated!
Well, figured I'd be the experiment with a new BD player (since no-one seemed to have one), the Yamaha BD-A1010 (review coming later on). I hooked it up last night and everything worked, like it should. However, the bass seemed pretty heavy when compared to my Pioneer 51FD. So..., I did what any sane person would do and turned it down. However, it got me thinking. Since I am using the 7.1/5.1 analog outputs of the Yami to the receiver, the receiver (older Oinker with no HDMI, also no variable sub crossover settings) is not doing any bass crossover management of it's own because I am utilitzing the 7.1/5.1 inputs. Is this correct? The new BD player also does not have the option of different sub crossover settings, hence my question. If the receiver isn't doing anything with the sub frequencies (i.e. - multi-channel in and out, straight through) and I can't change it in the player do I need to change the crossover setting on the sub itself (on the 51FD I set it at 80Hz, on the player menu)? Just leave it alone and keep messing with the volume? I do have the sub hooked up from the receiver utilizing the LFE feature.
Isn't it funny when you have a question and even though you get close to answering it from the internet "database" it seems no-one has a scenario quite like you do?
I know I had a couple people recommend the Oppo but everyone needs to try something different so please don't say "you should have bought the Oppo", please, no firebranding.
Any help would be appreciated!
Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me
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Well, bass management is done in the digital domain, so analog connections will not get you there. The bdp should have something in it I would imagine though probably not a full set of crossover settings. The way you have it setup, the bdp is only sending the LFE to the receiver, thus to the sub. On older receivers, the crossovers are usually at set points with regard to how you set it up in the speaker menu, such as Large or Small.
Maybe time to go receiver shopping. Some darn good deals have been in the FM lately.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
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B&k 1420
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That's what I'm guessing as well. I know my receiver won't even let me adjust the different speaker levels with multi-channel inputs, I have to do that with the BD player. I have seen that my particular receiver is set automatically to set the sub crossover at 80 Hz, although it doesn't say so in the manual, just by searching "older" threads on the net. It just seems to me that with the new Yami BD player (with no sub crossover settings available in it's menu) is sending a more powerful signal to the sub, if that makes any sense. Guess I'll just mess with the volume nob a little more to make it blend better (I really need to get one of those sound meter do hickies). I know with all the newer receivers they'll do just about anything for you through HDMI, which I'm guessing is why the Yami doesn't have any specifics regarding this topic.
Anyway, thanks for replying. I've been away for a couple days for work. As far as purchasing a new receiver, yes, there have been some really good deals on the forum. However, purchasing the new BDP and the 7C's, the same day, I won't have a WAF in that department. She puts up with this stuff, most of the time. I like to keep things as long as they work, or start smoking...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
So....set that old receiver ablaze my friend. Tell the wife your concerned over her safety and old electronics are a fire hazzard. Then put a big Packers sticker on the new receiver, she'll dig it.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Now that's funny right there! If I hadn't schooled her so well when it comes to audio, not to mention how long some things will last when you take care of them, I just might get away with that. I'm afraid she's been married to me too long and knows "most" of my secrets.
She is a Packers fan though (I'm not), but even she has better taste than to put a sticker on a nice piece of gear!Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
I think that is your best bet to adjust the subwoofer manually in this case.
Funny...It was just a few minutes ago that I was adjusting the settings on my Pioneer BDP-51FD to get my new subwoofer dialed in as well. I need one of those sound meter do hickies too!