Pioneer SPEC-2

brgman
brgman Posts: 2,859
edited February 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
I see a local has one in nice condition for sale.
Anything special about this amp?
Worth trying to get or not?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    brgman wrote: »
    Anything special about this amp?

    Nope
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited February 2012
    Some people feel they are collectible vintage gear.

    http://silverpioneer.netfirms.com/power_amps.htm
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    Collectable doesn't always equal great sound. Lots of vintage gear is collected, only a handful actually sounds and performs well.

    If it's reasonable, buy it and try it. But don't expect much.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited February 2012
    Pass
    Thanks
    Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC

    Backup Rig-2 CH-Rogue Audio Zeus w/Factory Special Dark Mods,Joule-Electra 300ME Platinum Preamp,OPPO-105 w/Modwright Tube Mod, Auralic Aries G2.1,Polk 2.3TL,3.1TL's,Dreadnought,RTA-15TL's,1C's All Fully Modded,2xRTA-12c's ,Benchmark DAC3 HGC,Synology NAS,VPI Scout w/Dynavector DV-20XH and Rogue Audio Ares Phono Preamp,Sony PCM-R500 DAT,HHB-850 Pro CDR,Tascam CC-222SLMKII Cassette/CDR,MIT S3.3 Shotgun Cables,Shunyata Hyra-8,Shunyata and Triode Labs Power Cords

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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited February 2012
    It has that Silver Faced Pioneer sound. Could be worth getting to flip for more cash but other than that it is nothing more than a decent amp.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited February 2012
    Dude wants 875 obo.
    Way too much IMHO
    275 and maybe i would look into it
    Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    LOL.............$875 that's insane!!! Dude must be on crack

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Erock
    Erock Posts: 1
    edited February 2012
    Hey brgman, I have not personally listened to a spec 2 system but I have two Pioneer receivers (sx 1050 and sx 1980) and I will tell you there is nothing available currently that comes close to the Pioneer sound. If you can get the preamp that matches the amp you will most definitely enjoy that system. Good luck.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2012
    Erock wrote: »
    Hey brgman, I have not personally listened to a spec 2 system but I have two Pioneer receivers (sx 1050 and sx 1980) and I will tell you there is nothing available currently that comes close to the Pioneer sound. If you can get the preamp that matches the amp you will most definitely enjoy that system. Good luck.

    Lol...."nothing currently available that comes close", eh? Thanks that made me laugh on a Friday. I'm still laughing........from my belly!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited February 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Lol...."nothing currently available that comes close", eh? Thanks that made me laugh on a Friday. I'm still laughing........from my belly!

    H9


    You said belly!

    :cheesygrin::cheesygrin::cheesygrin:
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited February 2012
    Pink belly pink belly
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited February 2012
    Erock wrote: »
    Hey brgman, I have not personally listened to a spec 2 system but I have two Pioneer receivers (sx 1050 and sx 1980) and I will tell you there is nothing available currently that comes close to the Pioneer sound. If you can get the preamp that matches the amp you will most definitely enjoy that system. Good luck.

    You have to love an individual who comes here and pulls his pants down in front of everyone on the first post, no matter how misguided he might be.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,966
    edited February 2012
    Usually when that happens ^^^^^ It's an open invitation to introduce the Texas Fly Swatter. It is the guys first post though, if it was like his 5th or 6th, then the Hell hounds would be unleashed.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited February 2012
    Ya gotta love his commitment!...LOL
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,338
    edited February 2012
    The recent completed listings on eBay show that 4 of these amps have been sold for $700 - $1,300 in the last ten days. A very powerful amplifier 250 wpc @ 8 ohms and 500 wpc @ 4 ohms. This amp is very comparable to many new amps that you can buy today for much more money. This is one of the best pieces of equipment Pioneer made. It is also very nice looking. You have to be careful with vintage gear some of it can be very good, but some may need repair, cleaning, etc. $850 is a good price if you can demo it and pick it up locally.
    Carl

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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited February 2012
    schwarcw wrote: »
    The recent completed listings on eBay show that 4 of these amps have been sold for $700 - $1,300 in the last ten days. A very powerful amplifier 250 wpc @ 8 ohms and 500 wpc @ 4 ohms. This amp is very comparable to many new amps that you can buy today for much more money. This is one of the best pieces of equipment Pioneer made. It is also very nice looking. You have to be careful with vintage gear some of it can be very good, but some may need repair, cleaning, etc. $850 is a good price if you can demo it and pick it up locally.

    I'm sure if it's in good shape it is worth that kind of scratch to a vintage buff but i think if i bought it would be like the Steelers.Old and in the way.:eek::cheesygrin:
    Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC

    Backup Rig-2 CH-Rogue Audio Zeus w/Factory Special Dark Mods,Joule-Electra 300ME Platinum Preamp,OPPO-105 w/Modwright Tube Mod, Auralic Aries G2.1,Polk 2.3TL,3.1TL's,Dreadnought,RTA-15TL's,1C's All Fully Modded,2xRTA-12c's ,Benchmark DAC3 HGC,Synology NAS,VPI Scout w/Dynavector DV-20XH and Rogue Audio Ares Phono Preamp,Sony PCM-R500 DAT,HHB-850 Pro CDR,Tascam CC-222SLMKII Cassette/CDR,MIT S3.3 Shotgun Cables,Shunyata Hyra-8,Shunyata and Triode Labs Power Cords

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  • rjcardinal
    rjcardinal Posts: 11
    edited February 2012
    May be of average quality to some of you but it is very collectible.

    Vintage guys freak for these old Pioneer amps.

    Ron
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    edited February 2012
    I knew a warrant officer when I was in the Army, he had a SX 1980 that reciever was a Beast 250 wpc @ 8 ohms he had 2 pair of huge JBl's hooked up to it a Nak Dragon Cassette deck a pioneer Equalizer and reverb, a pioneer Turntable the lower part of the military housing quarters had the pleasure of hearing him cranking Aldo Nova's Fantasy a time or two the MP's showed up a time or two, those amps and recievers do have a market believe it or not, and they go for a price.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited February 2012
    I think i see who got the pre that goes with it.A local used equip dealer has that for sale for 900.
    Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC

    Backup Rig-2 CH-Rogue Audio Zeus w/Factory Special Dark Mods,Joule-Electra 300ME Platinum Preamp,OPPO-105 w/Modwright Tube Mod, Auralic Aries G2.1,Polk 2.3TL,3.1TL's,Dreadnought,RTA-15TL's,1C's All Fully Modded,2xRTA-12c's ,Benchmark DAC3 HGC,Synology NAS,VPI Scout w/Dynavector DV-20XH and Rogue Audio Ares Phono Preamp,Sony PCM-R500 DAT,HHB-850 Pro CDR,Tascam CC-222SLMKII Cassette/CDR,MIT S3.3 Shotgun Cables,Shunyata Hyra-8,Shunyata and Triode Labs Power Cords

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  • jimsvm
    jimsvm Posts: 307
    edited February 2012
    Would this amp be the match for the sa-8500ii? I have this pre on my garage rig paired with monitor 10s. The 10s are sounding awesom with 8500
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