10" Treo Te sub and box 200 (LOCAL)
EndersShadow
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For sale is a Treo TE 10.44 Dual Voice Coil 10" sub that can be wired for a 2 ohm load or 4 ohms. It has been used, but never bottomed out and never abused. It looks as good as new. I am selling it with the perfect ported box for it. It is in a Prosub rhino-lined ported box. The sub goes super low and can get up to 115 db in my Jetta. I bought the sub and box for 250 EACH, so your getting them for a steal.
The box is tuned to 30hz as its in a 1.2 cubic foot box with a 12" port. Its dimensions are: W: 20"
14.75" H: 11"
Looking for 200 cash. Will possibly accept trade for a Polk SR sub.
Here are links to both the sub spec's itself and the sub box.
Treo TE 10.44: http://www.treoonline.com/te.html
10" ported Probox: http://www.proboxrocks.com/products/unloaded/turbobass/110TB/index.shtml
The box is tuned to 30hz as its in a 1.2 cubic foot box with a 12" port. Its dimensions are: W: 20"
14.75" H: 11"Looking for 200 cash. Will possibly accept trade for a Polk SR sub.
Here are links to both the sub spec's itself and the sub box.
Treo TE 10.44: http://www.treoonline.com/te.html
10" ported Probox: http://www.proboxrocks.com/products/unloaded/turbobass/110TB/index.shtml
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Why are you selling this combo, especially for that cheap?? Treos are freaking great subs!2008 Nissan Altima
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Why are you selling this combo, especially for that cheap?? Treos are freaking great subs!
Found a SR124 DVC in a box built to polks specs for 200. I don't dislike it but I want better frequency response than this has.
I have had it on CL for 300 and here for 250 and got no movement so I am hoping by asking for right what I need I can get a local buyer. I am also giving a polkie discount of 50 off the CL price
. It's an older treo as well not one of their SA line.
In WinISD the SR stomps the TREO in linear response and stays flatter throughout. Do you think I am making a mistake?"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Yup but in this case it's in a vented box"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Which is his point. If you were to put the Treo into a properly sized sealed box, you would probably end up with much better sound quality and it would no longer be a "one-note sub."EndersShadow wrote: »Yup but in this case it's in a vented box
Vented boxes can have good sound quality if designed and built properly, however, it is much more difficult to do compared to a good sealed box. -
Which is his point. If you were to put the Treo into a properly sized sealed box, you would probably end up with much better sound quality and it would no longer be a "one-note sub."
Vented boxes can have good sound quality if designed and built properly, however, it is much more difficult to do compared to a good sealed box.
Any suggestions?"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Unless you want to build it yourself (and really know what you are doing), or know someone really talented in that area, I would stick with a good sealed enclosure.EndersShadow wrote: »Any suggestions?
I've had a couple of carpeted 3/4" MDF sealed sub enclosures built at Car Toys. Yes, I'm sure there are some here who are ready to flame me for this, but oh well. They'll do a custom sized enclosure for around $75-$150 depending on the size. They may not be the least expensive you could find, but they are very well built from my experience, and they build to your specifications. Find out the appropriate internal volume (in cubic feet) that the sub manufacturer recommends then do the math. Find out what size and dimensions would meet your needs for where you want to put it, as well meeting the needs of the subwoofer. Here's a page with a good calculator to use, which takes into account the thickness of the MDF when calculating the internal volume:
http://www.bcae1.com/spboxnew2.htm
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I will take a look, but it still wont fix the fact that the spec's on the SR are better than the spec's on the Treo.
Also by going sealed I will be losing SPL througout the frequency range. The recommended enclosure for the Treo sealed is .8 cubic feet which gives it a FS of 40 hz. Thats a bit high. Even with a ported enclosure (which my enclosure is about at those spec's) the FS is 30.
I will post a WinISD graph later tonight to show what I am looking at as to why the SR is just that much better. I dont have time before work this morning."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Here is the WinISD graph of the SR (blue) v. the Treo (yellow). Keep in mind the SR is a 12 and the Treo is a 10, plus the SR can handle 200 watts more than the Treo. The boxes are also much different.
Note how the SR just has a better response at almost ALL SPL's. Someone double check my graph with the Treo, but thats why I am trying to get that SR.
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I just swapped my RE Audio SR 12 from ported to a new sealed box over the weekend. Lovin' the sealed sound dude. I had a real loud box. Great for hearing it 2 blocks away... that's about it.
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First, please post a graph for the Treo with the box tuned to 30hz like you say your current box is. That 39.99hz you have it graphed to now just looks like it isn't a good option for the Treo. I would also be curious to see what the graph looks like for a sealed box with the Treo.EndersShadow wrote: »Here is the WinISD graph of the SR (blue) v. the Treo (yellow). Keep in mind the SR is a 12 and the Treo is a 10, plus the SR can handle 200 watts more than the Treo. The boxes are also much different.
Note how the SR just has a better response at almost ALL SPL's. Someone double check my graph with the Treo, but thats why I am trying to get that SR.
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I just swapped my RE Audio SR 12 from ported to a new sealed box over the weekend. Lovin' the sealed sound dude. I had a real loud box. Great for hearing it 2 blocks away... that's about it.
GLWS - Need Components? :P
I am runnning a set of db6501 components right now and am tempted with DSkips Momo's.....First, please post a graph for the Treo with the box tuned to 30hz like you say your current box is. That 39.99hz you have it graphed to now just looks like it isn't a good option for the Treo. I would also be curious to see what the graph looks like for a sealed box with the Treo.
Yeah I saw that right after I posted but didnt have time to make adjustments before work. I will post a graph of the Treo v. SR ported (with the right info) and then a Treo v. SR sealed.
The SR should be better since its a 12 v. the 10 of the Treo and cone area does make a difference, but we will see."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
EndersShadow wrote: »I am runnning a set of db6501 components right now and am tempted with DSkips Momo's.....
Ahh... I have db6500's in my car right now. I have a pair of RE **** Components that I've owned for 2 years that I've been terrified to install. I've recently decided to sell them. I feel I'll regret that decision but I just don't feel the need to use these. Buddy of mine is going to pick up the new MM series for his ride.
Buy my RE's!
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Ahh... I have db6500's in my car right now. I have a pair of RE **** Components that I've owned for 2 years that I've been terrified to install. I've recently decided to sell them. I feel I'll regret that decision but I just don't feel the need to use these. Buddy of mine is going to pick up the new MM series for his ride.
Buy my RE's!
LOL, trying to not buy anything at this point. The SR I am hoping the seller will do a straight trade for my setup after a day or two, or if the Treo sells.
I am somewhat content with the db6501's but if I had better tuning I might need to setup up my game. Given my current setup I am pretty happy, but want a better flatter frequency response, and I just dont see that from the Treo given the graphs I have made."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Attached are the WinISD SPL graphs for the Treo v. SR. I have one with just the vented options, and another showing both vented (in thicker lines) and sealed (in thinner lines)
SR wins out in the vented by a large margin and also in the sealed as well. Surprisingly the 10" SR is about on the same level as the TE. (didnt attach the graphs for that though)
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Hmmm. Well, from looking at the sealed graphs, it is obvious that the SR is quite a bit more efficient than the Treo. Looking at the vented graphs, it looks like the Treo would respond better with an even lower tuning frequency. The hump is certainly much smaller compared the 39.99hz you posted earlier, but a properly designed box shouldn't even have that much of a hump. Or maybe it's just the nature of the Treo. The SR is certainly better behaved than the Treo in the vented graphs that you posted though.EndersShadow wrote: »Attached are the WinISD SPL graphs for the Treo v. SR. I have one with just the vented options, and another showing both vented (in thicker lines) and sealed (in thinner lines)
SR wins out in the vented by a large margin and also in the sealed as well. Surprisingly the 10" SR is about on the same level as the TE. (didnt attach the graphs for that though)
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At any rate, please let me know how you like it. I'm running an Alpine Type-R SWR-1242D sub in a sealed 1.02 ft^3 box right now. I'm happy with it, and it gets very good reviews, but I'm curious how it would compare to the 12" SR sub. I've considered trying the SR124 if I found a good deal on one, and my current box already meets the Polk specifications for a sealed box. -
At any rate, please let me know how you like it.
Well right now unless I sell the Treo the SR isnt going to happen, and the Treo hasnt gotten any hits even at 200 here locally on CL. There is also a slight discrepancy as to if the SR is the single or dual voice coil. If its the single then I have no use for it.
I passed along the seller's info to Vital who has gotten a response saying its the single voice coil whereas I was told it was the dual.
Regarding the box, the Treo's manufacture's spec's list it as having a FS of 23 so perhaps I do simply need to redesign a new box.
Spec's linked below
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Also its not that the SR is more efficient (though that may be the case anyway), its that the SR is able to handle 700 watts RMS whereas the Treo can only hand 500."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Which only comes in effect when you are concerned about overpowering your sub because your amp puts out let's say 800+ watts, you will not hear much of a difference in those extra 200Watts at least i didn't notice a damn thing when I switched from PA400.1 to PA600.1 and got extra 100 watts at 2 Ohms (I believe at the time I run db sub in Polk's vented enclosure)2008 Nissan Altima
Kenwood DNX 5140
Arc Audio IDX and XEQ
Polk Audio SR6500 active and SR124-dvc sealed
Polk Audio PA500.4 and PA1200.1 -
Which only comes in effect when you are concerned about overpowering your sub because your amp puts out let's say 800+ watts
Which I am as the amp puts out 720 watts at 2 ohms and the Treo can only handle 500 of that. The SR I could run wide open with little worry about over driving the sub in a vented box."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Actually, unless you changed the default settings, WinISD shows the SPL graph based on the standard 1 watt at 1 meter measurement. Therefore, the SPL graph does show that the SR is more efficient.EndersShadow wrote: »Also its not that the SR is more efficient (though that may be the case anyway), its that the SR is able to handle 700 watts RMS whereas the Treo can only hand 500. -
Actually, unless you changed the default settings, WinISD shows the SPL graph based on the standard 1 watt at 1 meter measurement. Therefore, the SPL graph does show that the SR is more efficient.
I did change both the wattage and the ohm load "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
