RTi A7 = Happinessss...

Richd82

Okay just an update on how my how my new setup has come together. After doing some measuring i realized i had to go with the A7 rather than the A9. I finally got everything hooked up and will say im extremely happy.

Im running the A7/CSi a4 off an emotiva xpa5. The rear bookshelfs are just running off my HK avr 525 as i havent been able to upgrade to a pair of A3's yet, just some cheeseball jbl's but they get the job done.

All in all i think they sound amazing! In 2.1 the sub is extremely low just to reinforce the lows a bit. The cherry finish is gorgeous! I got the A7's for $725 for the pr. w/free shipping and the A4 for $200. Incredible deal from Acoustic Sound Design. IMO

Id like to thank Jbooker - Tonyb - and a few others who helped me quite a bit in previous threads. Ill post pics of my new setup as soon as i get a new battery for the camera. My living room is fresh. Brand new furniture all the way around and a banging sound system.

Im truly blessed...

glkcreative

Do the A7s drown out the A4 at all? I wanted the A6, but it doesn't fit into my cabinet. I bought the A4 and it keeps up well with my bookshelf Infinities in the front, but I really want to upgrade to A7s. My only concern is that the A4 is matched for the much smaller A3s and not for the gargantuan A7s.

Let me know what you think.

pyrocyborg

Great! Good to know! I hope you'll not get the upgrade bug anytime soon...

Enjoy!

tonyb

Congrats Rich, glad your diggin' them. See, not that hard to get good sound for not alot of coin. Enjoy the tunes, and when some extra scratch comes available, look for a used Jolida cdp with an upgraded tube in it to rock your world....if cdp's are up your alley.

jbooker82

Good Deal Rich. They get a little better with age too.

I dont have a probelm with my A7's and CSI A4. If your towers are drowning out the center channel that is a setup problem.

KYFHO

jbooker82 wrote: »

Good Deal Rich. They get a little better with age too.

I dont have a probelm with my A7's and CSI A4. If your towers are drowning out the center channel that is a setup problem.

Same here, my A4 sounds just fine with the A7's. Do you have the option to completely turn off your sub and run full range in 2 channel? The reason I ask is I have mine setup like that and it sounds awesome. You clearly have enough power to bring out the lower end once they are broken in a little. Congrats on your setup!

Nerd

Since this topic is very close to what I was thinking of asking here in the forum, I might ask the question here than a new thread,

When I run Stereo only the mains run without the sub, with All channel stereo the center runs too (which somehow I don;t like).

Is there a way to set up so that for music settings in the onkyo 806 I can run Main towers and sub

Richd82

tonyb wrote: »

Congrats Rich, glad your diggin' them. See, not that hard to get good sound for not alot of coin. Enjoy the tunes, and when some extra scratch comes available, look for a used Jolida cdp with an upgraded tube in it to rock your world....if cdp's are up your alley.

I would be in the market in the future for a stand alone cdp right now im just using my ps3. Any experience with the ps3 as a cdp?

Geoff4rfc

Richd82 wrote: »

I would be in the market in the future for a stand alone cdp right now im just using my ps3. Any experience with the ps3 as a cdp?

If it works it works. I use my LGBD390 for CDs and all sounds just fine. If you're into analogue connections, then maybe search out a stand alone. If you're cool with HDMI, your ps3 is the bomb.

Congrats on your 7's btw.

tonyb

Richd82 wrote: »

I would be in the market in the future for a stand alone cdp right now im just using my ps3. Any experience with the ps3 as a cdp?

PS3 is ok for cd's....just ok. A good cdp once implemented for comparison will convince you of that.

Erik Tracy

Nerd wrote: »

Since this topic is very close to what I was thinking of asking here in the forum, I might ask the question here than a new thread,

When I run Stereo only the mains run without the sub, with All channel stereo the center runs too (which somehow I don;t like).

Is there a way to set up so that for music settings in the onkyo 806 I can run Main towers and sub

Check to see if your onkyo can save multiple setup settings.

If so, you should be able to go into your manual setup and turn off the center and rears(or set center=no, surrounds=no), run the autocalibration and save in an alternate memory setting so that you've two saved settings 1 for movie and the other for music

pyrocyborg

The Ps3 transport mechanism is "okay", but it's far from any CDP at it's price point, unless you're comparing it at a 200$ CDP. However, if you use it as a media player from your PC, and with a good DAC, you'll have the same kind of sound quality than a somewhat pricier CDP, unless you're using compressed files (mp3 and such)... as the transport isn't involved.

So overall, the transport isn't that good, neither is it's DAC, but if you use it as a media player with an external DAC, you'll be pleased, except if you're over-critical about using files instead of cd

KYFHO

Nerd wrote: »

Since this topic is very close to what I was thinking of asking here in the forum, I might ask the question here than a new thread,

When I run Stereo only the mains run without the sub, with All channel stereo the center runs too (which somehow I don;t like).

Is there a way to set up so that for music settings in the onkyo 806 I can run Main towers and sub

My Denon will turn the sub on or off in stereo mode depending on the size I have my mains set at. If I have the mains set large, the sub doesn't play. I switch to small and the sub kicks on (if I have the system configured to have a sub).

jbooker82

Nerd wrote: »

Since this topic is very close to what I was thinking of asking here in the forum, I might ask the question here than a new thread,

When I run Stereo only the mains run without the sub, with All channel stereo the center runs too (which somehow I don;t like).

Is there a way to set up so that for music settings in the onkyo 806 I can run Main towers and sub

I have an onkyo and will assume it is some what close to the same settings as mine.

When you have the listening mode set to Stereo your sub will play. It is 2.1.

The sub will play the freq below what the xo for your front L&R towers are set at. If they are set for 40hz then you wont here a whole lot of sound coming from the sub. You can also have your L&R's set to Full Band. Make sure it still shows sub yes. Then go to the setting where is says Double Bass. Turn that on. If you dont you wont hear any sound out of the sub unless your listening to a sound track that has a .1 I.E. 2.1, 3.1, 5.1, or 7.1. Music like the radio or what not is going to be 2.0 so with out the double bass on your sub will be idle.

Nerd

Thanks All for the replies. I am kind of experincing what you all described. Here is what I have done till now

- I am on double bass, it makes it better for radio and stereo
- The bass is good with movies and TV, so it seems to be an input signal issue
- I did the audessy calibration and it set the Sub to -14, I changed it to -7 after doing manual level calibration by just listening to it by ear (I don;t know if that is right or wrong)
- I am searching in the manual for the indivdual setting for listening modes so that I can set the listening modes individually

Question : When the audessy does the calibration does it set the speakers frequency crossover, level and the distance or just the frequency c/o of the speakers.

tonyb

Audessy will do it all, but, the mic has to be in the listening position at ear level, not on the floor. Also, don't take it's word as gospel. You can always go back in the menu and tweek the setting to your liking.

mikehpolk

If you liek 'em now, jsut wait month or two. It's night and day. I'm quite happy with mine - got a pair with a csia5 for a grand two boing weeks ago.

Nerd

tonyb
Audessy will do it all, but, the mic has to be in the listening position at ear level, not on the floor. Also, don't take it's word as gospel. You can always go back in the menu and tweek the setting to your liking.

OK thanks, I think I like it now as I changed the Sub level setting.

Question : The onkyo does not let me set the sub crossover below 80 Hz (Thx), is that normal or am I missing something.

Geoff4rfc

I think it depends on your sub. On mine, I have two line inputs, one for the AVR to set, the other if I want to set the XO myself. My Onk will only go down to 80 like yours, but the manual setting on the sub allows me take it lower.

jbooker82

Sorry for mudding up your thread Rich


Nerd:

You need to have the XO setting in your Onkyo set to 120hz for the sub. The setting isnt even a crossover, it is a Low Pass Filter. When your listing to a 5.1 audio source, .1 is the LFE, (Low Frequency Effects) sound track. It is a spacific track that is dedicated for freq from 120hz down to 0 hz. Since it is a low pass fiter it simply blocks sound above what it is set at. It will not re route bass above the setting to the towers. You simply miss the bass above the setting. Since the LFE sound track is for freq from 120hz to 0hz the only proper setting is 120 hz. Make sure the Low Pass Filter dial on the sub it turned all the way up as well. Most of the time when you use a single cable pluged in to the LFE port on the sub it bypass the subs Low Pass Filter but just incase turn the dial all the way up.

Another problem you could be having is the volume is set to loud on the sub. That could cause Audysse to assign a large - value. The probelm you will run in to with that large negitive number is the sub will want to turn off or go to sleep.

Audysse will also assigne a large neg number for the sub if you have it turned off in the menu, or off during automatic setup.

Nerd

You need to have the XO setting in your Onkyo set to 120hz for the sub. The setting isnt even a crossover, it is a Low Pass Filter. When your listing to a 5.1 audio source, .1 is the LFE, (Low Frequency Effects) sound track. It is a spacific track that is dedicated for freq from 120hz down to 0 hz. Since it is a low pass fiter it simply blocks sound above what it is set at. It will not re route bass above the setting to the towers. You simply miss the bass above the setting. Since the LFE sound track is for freq from 120hz to 0hz the only proper setting is 120 hz

OK, Thanks, I am just a starter, so I did what you said. Thanks for the "re-rout bass to the tower tip", I was thinking that if I put it to 80 Hz, it is playing the real low frequencies only on the sub (my tower are full band in the setting, and on double bass)

Make sure the Low Pass Filter dial on the sub it turned all the way up as well. Most of the time when you use a single cable pluged in to the LFE port on the sub it bypass the subs Low Pass Filter but just incase turn the dial all the way up.

I am using the LFE out from my receiver Onk 806 and my sub is on bypass, so will the dial on the sub still matter ?

Another problem you could be having is the volume is set to loud on the sub. That could cause Audysse to assign a large - value. The probelm you will run in to with that large negitive number is the sub will want to turn off or go to sleep.

Volume on the sub is set to 5 which is what is recommended by outlaw and is the middle of the dial.

Audysse will also assigne a large neg number for the sub if you have it turned off in the menu, or off during automatic setup.

When I did the claibration it was on, and is on, I checked. Maybe the reverb in the room is doing something.

jbooker82

When you run the automatic setup does it have a place where you adjust the subwoofer volume? When I run mine it has me set the volume to 75 db. Wich is about 20 out of 40 clicks on my dsw pro 660 sub. Then it ends up setting the sub level to -3. I go back in and turn it up to 0 and lower the volume on the sub a little. Other wise the sub will go to sleep at low volumes.

Nerd

OK Thanks, I will try that too.

Right now it seems Ok, but I will verify the low volume settings

Richd82

jbooker82 wrote: »

Sorry for mudding up your thread Rich

No worries J its all useful and interesting reads. You previously helped me a lot.

Dengnath

I really question rather i shoulda got the a9's or not.... the 7's just didn't quite do it for me