Any issues using a preamp that inverts polarity on SDA speakers ?

thsmith
thsmith Posts: 6,082
edited February 2012 in Electronics
If not then all you would do is reverse your speaker cables at each speaker, reverse Red and black ?

Thanks,
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited February 2012
    Is this a question or a statement.
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2012
    Question
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2012
    yes-- I've done it both ways--just let your ears be your guide.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited February 2012
    As George suggests try it both ways .Some claim absolute phase is audibly significant others not so much.
  • CoolJazz
    CoolJazz Posts: 570
    edited February 2012
    How important it is depends on what type of music you typically listen to.

    If it's multi-tracked, assembled music, like just about all current music is, then absolute polarity is almost always gone and no longer a concern!

    If you listen to recordings made from stereo microphone pairs, like some classical is or almost all Chesky recording are (amongst other "audiophile" labels), then you will have asymetrical information in the recording being played. At that point, then it's a matter of whether your sensative to hearing this. Some people pick up on it right away and some don't.

    On a scope, you can clearly see asymetrical information as greater positive going information when the polarity is correct. This can even vary, due to flipping phase information as released from the labels. In those situations, it can be obvious on a scope that much more information goes in the negative direction.

    In the case of having a polarity switch on a preamp, it can be pretty obvious as sounding more natural when you restore polarity to the correct direction. Horns like trumpet, trombone etc. are some of the greater asymetrical information that I've personally seen. Human voice also.

    Personally, I'd suggest when sure that you have either preamps or amps that flip phase, I'd correct by reversing the speaker leads and then not worry too much about it otherwise.

    CJ
    A so called science type proudly says... "I do realize that I would fool myself all the time, about listening conclusions and many other observations, if I did listen before buying. That’s why I don’t, I bought all of my current gear based on technical parameters alone, such as specs and measurements."

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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2012
    Thanks guys. I just wanted to know if it was ok to do on SDAs and I now have my answer. Thanks again.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2012
    No issues and this is very common. Most people don't read the manual enough to notice this in the first place.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,808
    edited February 2012
    my experience is that there are some folks who can hear/detect absolute phase and some (probably most) that cannot. I suspect that it's like perfect pitch (or maybe more like synesthesia) - both of which are relatively more common in musicians than in the nonmusical schlubs (such as I).