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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2012
    It's what I always suggest on Customer Service. Tighten the post all the way down and simply pop it up with the blade.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,648
    edited January 2012
    I actually take a knife or a razor lade and stab it at a angle and lift outwards - usually takes approx 5 seconds :)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited January 2012
    SDA1C wrote: »
    You should part them out.

    hahaha

    You're a bit of a Diva aren't you Brock? :P
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    dorokusai wrote: »
    It's what I always suggest on Customer Service. Tighten the post all the way down and simply pop it up with the blade.

    Tried that, still flush if not a little recessed. There was no place to put the blade.

    Look guys, I'm not an idiot, if it was as simple as people are posting, it would have been a non-issue. It was one of the more frustrating things I've had to do audio wise. The reason it was frustrating is because it should be simple, not be the huge production it turned into. Perhaps is this/was the exception not the rule, but I have never seen anything so simple turn into a full blown tear down and still not get it done 100%.

    Perhaps they weren't the stock plugs, but whatever they were, they weren't/didn't come out easy.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    A box cutting knife with a razor blade might have gotten done. I still think the caps would have broken off leaving the shaft in the hole even doing that.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2012
    Small drill bit. Done.
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,730
    edited January 2012
    Several years ago, I came across the same problem when I was setting up a 7.1 system for the daughter and SIL.

    The frustrating part is that you KNOW that it isn't rocket science, you KNOW what you need to do, and you KNOW it's supposed to be be as easy as stepping off a curb.
    But it ain't happening.
    No way to slip anything underneath the cap, snapped an Exacto knife blade off on the (I guess) SUPER-plastic that Polk had invented with the NASA space program.
    Posted in the "TroubleShooting" section, asking for assistance; kind of felt like I was asking someone, "Hey, how do you tie your shoes ?". :redface:
    Finally drilled the cap out, after dropping quite a number of F-bombs.
    Sal Palooza
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2012
    F1nut wrote: »
    Polkie of the year and this! LOL

    Took the words right out...
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    A box cutting knife with a razor blade might have gotten done. I still think the caps would have broken off leaving the shaft in the hole even doing that.

    H9

    No, it doesn't as you don't have to use so much pressure that you cut the shaft of it but you do need to apply enough to dig under the lip. I'm not sure why this is so painful as I've removed a couple hundred the same way, every time.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited January 2012
    Mark,

    I would never have thought it would be as difficult as it was either. Just one of those things that happens once in awhile. I suspect they have been in there since day one and since these speakers have some years on them they were very settled in and I believe they became brittle over the past 12-15 years.

    I was really just venting because I was frustrated that a 30 second process had to end in a dis-assembly of the crossover and a drill bit. **** happens.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,447
    edited January 2012
    ratster wrote: »
    Toothpick,Super glue,great idea.
    Hope I can remember it when needed.
    Thanks.

    I ran into this problem with some Cerwin Vega's. I used a very small drill bit drill a hole in the plastic then used a small screw to pull it out....feel your pain Brock. Guess my thought is why even put those plastic pegs in there in the first place? The manufactures do want us to use them right so why the expense for them or do they just come with the post when bought from the supplier
  • evhudsons
    evhudsons Posts: 1,175
    edited January 2012
    nothing worth doing is ever easy.
    Polk Audio SDA CRS+ crossover 4.1TL by Trey/VR3 (Rings and custom stand by Larry)-Polk Audio SDA SRS2 crossovers by Trey/VR3Parasound HCA1500aYamaha rxa-3070 with musicast-Celestion SL6S presence,- sl9 surround backNHTsuper1's surroundMagnepan SMGParasound 1500pre- Sofia "Baby" tube amp - Monitor Audio Silver RX2 Marantz 2230/B&Kst140Technics 1200mk2 Gamertag: IslandBerserker I am but a infinitesimally small point meeting the line of infinity in the SDA universe
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited January 2012
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Guess my thought is why even put those plastic pegs in there in the first place? The manufactures do want us to use them right so why the expense for them or do they just come with the post when bought from the supplier
    Read post 11.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2012
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Mark,

    I would never have thought it would be as difficult as it was either. Just one of those things that happens once in awhile. I suspect they have been in there since day one and since these speakers have some years on them they were very settled in and I believe they became brittle over the past 12-15 years.

    I was really just venting because I was frustrated that a 30 second process had to end in a dis-assembly of the crossover and a drill bit. **** happens.

    H9

    Roger that dude....you never know sometimes.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited January 2012
    I thought of this thread last night as I was removing the plugs from my new to me LSi-7's.:biggrin:

    It was more of a pain than necessary, but it wasn't too bad with a razor. I still ended up breaking 3 of the 4 plugs into multiple pieces, but they're gone now and I didn't damage the speakers.

    They sound great, BTW!
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited January 2012
    SDA1C wrote: »
    Sure you aren't related to PFB?
    You sure got a big chuckle out of me when I read your post! LoL
    EDUBAG wrote: »
    h9,

    maybe next time you could use a very small allen wrench through the hole of the speaker wire and just push the plugs. even a paper clip would do it.

    good thing you have them up and running anyways and are enjoying them.

    regards,

    eduardo
    SDA1C wrote: »
    You should part them out.
    Even better! ROTLMAO
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Razor Blade.
    U sure U wan't to give this to PH9? :wink:
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Tried that, still flush if not a little recessed. There was no place to put the blade.

    Look guys, I'm not an idiot, if it was as simple as people are posting, it would have been a non-issue. It was one of the more frustrating things I've had to do audio wise. The reason it was frustrating is because it should be simple, not be the huge production it turned into. Perhaps is this/was the exception not the rule, but I have never seen anything so simple turn into a full blown tear down and still not get it done 100%.

    Perhaps they weren't the stock plugs, but whatever they were, they weren't/didn't come out easy.

    H9
    You might want to seek PFB's advice in that regard, at least the mess would be complete and perfect, not 1/2 a$$! :wink:

    I hope out of the frustration you can take Polkies toying with you a little afterall, you are the Polkie of the year! :wink:

    It seems the painfull caps have been left there for years causing them to bind to the binding posts next time, try a tiny hole in them and using a very tiny screw to pull them out (as previously mentioned, a heated paper clip would also do the trick). I hope you'll get to enjoy those speakers for a few years to come as you seemed to have worked hard for them (or maybe they gave you a good work out :wink: )!
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2012
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited January 2012
    all things considered... this is baby ****.!!!! glad you got it goin!
    Too much **** to list....
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    edited January 2012
    This plug problem happened to me also. At 50 years old, we do get short on patience with these type of matters. I got flustered using a razor knife. I thought about my old oil filter change I did years ago that turned ugly.

    I went to do an oil change after Jiffy lube changed my oil previously. They didn't put oil on the ring before seating the filter. I ended up having to go to a MEDAC center for stitches later that day. It wouldn't come loose for nothing. I shredded the filter trying to remove it!..LOL.
    And it in return shredded my palm later in the process. That was when I was 40 or so. Still, a 10 min. job turned into hours. It does happen doesn't it. :-(
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    edited January 2012
    I did get the plugs out with the razor knife after alot of careful prying and breakage also.

    I like the ideas that have been mentioned for future times if some plugs are hard to remove again.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited January 2012
    Bump....LOL JK

    I just noticed your location Tony M. I'll take that challenge :) Are you on any online chess sites?
    Too much **** to list....