RTiA9 placement - distance from back wall ?

Mongo
Mongo Posts: 52
edited January 2012 in Speakers
Hi all,

I've read somewhere else that, to improve the acoustics in a room (sound expansion), it is important to leave some space between the main speakers and the back wall.

Please, does it make any sense ? Can`t I put the RTiA9`s as close as possible (actually touching) the back wall ?

Thanks a lot,

Mongo
Receiver: Marantz - SR6006
Main: RTi A9's (powered by 2 Emotiva XPA-1`s, bi-amp)
Center: CSi A6
Surrounds: RTiA5's
(center and surrounds powered by Emotiva XPA-5)
Subwoofer: Infinity PS312
TV Sharp 70"
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2012
    I believe the 9's have a power port in the back that when placed up against the wall will make for some bloated boomy bass. If you need a speaker to be placed against a wall, probably best to get one with ports in the front alone. Anything with rear ports will need to be away from the wall or from an enclosed space.
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  • Mongo
    Mongo Posts: 52
    edited January 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    I believe the 9's have a power port in the back that when placed up against the wall will make for some bloated boomy bass. If you need a speaker to be placed against a wall, probably best to get one with ports in the front alone. Anything with rear ports will need to be away from the wall or from an enclosed space.

    Thanks, yes, it has a back port. Please, how far may I place it from the back wall ?

    Thanks,

    Mongo
    Receiver: Marantz - SR6006
    Main: RTi A9's (powered by 2 Emotiva XPA-1`s, bi-amp)
    Center: CSi A6
    Surrounds: RTiA5's
    (center and surrounds powered by Emotiva XPA-5)
    Subwoofer: Infinity PS312
    TV Sharp 70"
  • 62caddy
    62caddy Posts: 137
    edited January 2012
    For what it's worth- I have my A7s (similar design to A9 w/ rear port) within a few inches from the wall and can report no unpleasent boominess in the bass- which is as deep and tight as could want. I hate boomy sounding bass. Of course a lot also depends on EQ/ loudness comp settings.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited January 2012
    My A9's are 8" off the back wall from the back of the speaker. I can't pull them out any more. I quite enjoy the sound at that distance.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2012
    Everyone's room is different, pull them out a couple inches at a time and see how it sounds to you. Use the same track of music as a comparison, something with some lower bass notes in it.
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  • gtaudio
    gtaudio Posts: 29
    edited January 2012
    My A7s are about 6" from the front wall. :wink:
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited January 2012
    Yeah mine are about 6" from the front wall too - but the entrance to the living room is right next to the front right speaker.

    Doesn't the back plate of the power port that redirects air to the sides negate the need for moving the speakers out more?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited January 2012
    I dunno if it negates it all together, sure that plate helps some though. The only way to find out is to experiment a few inches at a time and see if the sound changes.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

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    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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  • jephdood
    jephdood Posts: 1,671
    edited January 2012
    Can maybe put an acoustic panel on the wall behind your speakers to absorb some of the energy..?
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  • Mongo
    Mongo Posts: 52
    edited January 2012
    Thanks to everybody that replied, mine are more or less 6" from the wall, since there`s no straight forward cake recipe, I'll probably keep it like that;

    Thanks,

    Mongo
    Receiver: Marantz - SR6006
    Main: RTi A9's (powered by 2 Emotiva XPA-1`s, bi-amp)
    Center: CSi A6
    Surrounds: RTiA5's
    (center and surrounds powered by Emotiva XPA-5)
    Subwoofer: Infinity PS312
    TV Sharp 70"
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited January 2012
    Are you able to bring them out more? How far from the side walls? Experiment. Try bringing it out 2 inches at a time and see if you like or dislike the changes IF you have the room.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,789
    edited January 2012
    Just FWIW the purpose of the powerport design is so boundaries do not affect the bass - hence why Polk mount them on bookshelves and integrates it as a wallmount...

    You should be able to put them right up on the wall with very little negative effects..
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