Newbie bi-amping question

hochpt21
hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
edited January 2012 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Receiver - Sony STR-DG1000 7.1 120Wx7
Sub - PSW10
Center - CS1
Fronts - Monitor 70
Surrounds - Monitor 30

I'm running a 5.1 setup with my 7.1 receiver. My reciever has 4 sets of binding posts available for the fronts in addition to two for the surrounds, two for the back surrounds and one for the center. Can I "bi-amp" the M70's with the "extra" two sets of front binding posts since I don't have anything hooked up to the back surrounds? Is this recommended?

I've had the M70's for awhile now and love them, but I am new to the surround sound world.

Thanks in advance for the help!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2011
    Have fun, http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/search.php?searchid=345006

    Bottom line, you're better off replacing the stock jumpers with high quality speaker wire.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,311
    edited December 2011
    Agreed!! I replaced the jumpers on my RTiA9's it made such an improvement that I had to do the center speaker, the jumpers just suck IMO..
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited December 2011
    The link didn't take me anywhere.

    I may be out of my league...what is a jumper?
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,311
    edited December 2011
    The brass looking piece connecting the highs and lows on your binding posts where you connect your speaker cables..
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2011
    The link takes you to a whole lot of threads that contain info on bi-amping.

    The jumpers are the gold colored plates that connect the top binding posts to the bottom posts.
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited December 2011
    Ah jumpers...makes sense.

    I tried the link a couple more times but it just says no matches.

    Maybe this is a better question. Will I get adequate performance out of my current setup with the sony amp and 14 guage speaker wire? Then I won't even have to worry about bi-amping.

    Thanks!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2011
    Hmmm......ok, upper right corner find the search box. Type in bi-amping.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,311
    edited December 2011
    Don't worry about bi-amping you will be fine but if you do try it make sure you take out the jumpers before power up.

    Try just using some of that speaker wire and replace the jumpers as F1 stated..
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited December 2011
    So just replacing the jumper plates with my 14g speaker wire should give me a better sound? Basically, on one set of the binding posts the wire coming from the receiver and the wire from the other binding post will be touching, correct?

    Also, does it matter if I run the wire from the receiver to the top or bottom set of posts?
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited December 2011
    Thanks...got some good info.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2011
    So just replacing the jumper plates with my 14g speaker wire should give me a better sound?

    Not should, will.
    Basically, on one set of the binding posts the wire coming from the receiver and the wire from the other binding post will be touching, correct?

    Yes.
    Also, does it matter if I run the wire from the receiver to the top or bottom set of posts?

    No.
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited December 2011
    Some folks here will suggest that bi-amping is a waste of time and it doesn't do anything. Fine. The same type of folk will go off and suggest that power receptacles and power cords change the sound of their audio.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,665
    edited December 2011
    ROHfan wrote: »
    Some folks here will suggest that bi-amping is a waste of time and it doesn't do anything. Fine. The same type of folk will go off and suggest that power receptacles and power cords change the sound of their audio.

    That's because those same folks have actually tried those things as opposed to those other folks who mearly regurgitate what they have read instead of trying it for themselves.
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  • SpiderMan1
    SpiderMan1 Posts: 10
    edited January 2012
    The brass looking piece connecting the highs and lows on your binding posts
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited January 2012
    Thanks spider, toolfan and F1 suggested that earlier and I have already made the switch.
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  • SpiderMan1
    SpiderMan1 Posts: 10
    edited January 2012
    14 guage speaker wire? Then I won't even have to worry about bi-amping.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2012
    hochpt21 wrote: »
    Thanks spider, toolfan and F1 suggested that earlier and I have already made the switch.
    So what are your impressions? Especially for 2-ch...

    As for checking out your Sony's bi-amping performance... why not try it as well? Again, I'd suggest you focus on 2-ch operation for the comparison.
    More later,
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