Recommended settings for DSW Pro 660

Hannzz
Hannzz Posts: 34
Hi: I running yamaha a2000 with RTiA7 fronts, CC CsiA6, no surround yet and DSW Pro 660. Is there any recommended settings for this sub for deep bass. Room size is 12x13. currently, place in the mid of side wall. Thanks for your input.
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  • djperez81
    djperez81 Posts: 388
    edited December 2011
    What do you mean exactly? Is it not producing any bass at all? Need a little more info to help you out.
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  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited December 2011
    It does produce base but sounds like not going with other speakers. Also, what cross-over frequency and phase out value should be?
  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited December 2011
    The phase should be set at 0. Some people will benefit from having it elsewhere, so give it a shot. But if you can't tell the difference, I would just leave it as the default (0). As for crossover, generally you would want to start at about 80 on the receiver. Are you adjusting the receiver side of things, or turning the knob on the back (I have one.... can't even remember if it has a knob or a switch for the settings)

    No matter what, you're not going to ruin the sub. Just go ahead and play with the settings and see what sounds good. I generally go for the 60-80 range. Anything above 80 and your sub tries to speak. It's scary. lol
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited December 2011
    Phase at 0, crossover all the way to the right and just a tad below half on the sub volume. Set the crossover in the reciever to 80 for starters. You want the reciever to handle the crossover settings.

    Try that and see how it sounds after you run YPAO system on the reciever. If the sub volume gets raised too much in your reciever settings (+5 or above) up the volume on the sub a few notches and re-run the YPAO. You should not have to put the sub volume knob at 3/4's to get that sub to kick out the sound. As mentioned, let the AVR do the work for crossing freq.

    If the YPAO states your sub is out of phase, that is when you would adjust the phase control. Usually but not always, when a sub is inline or close to the front stage phase doe not require adjusting. It could be out of phase if you put it at the back of the room far away from your front speakers or if it is reflecting off of something in the front.

    Good luck, and enjoy.
  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited December 2011
    Hi Guys:

    Yesterday as per Yamaha manual (downloaded) I ran YAPO it said put cross-over (low pass) at max and volume half way on the sub and run YAPO. After running YAPO and saving it I notice my sub boom is gone. It does not produce boom that used to be. Did I fry my sub in the process? I can hear boom when I test individual speakers and sub but boom sound is still very low. I ran test on youtube sub test and very soft. How can I reset Yamaha a2000 reset to factory default or any other suggestion? Thanks
  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited December 2011
    Ok, I did some troubleshoot the problem is somewhere in receiver. since I hooked up SUB with other Yamaha receiver HTR5640 and is definitely response even at -33db with HTR. While with Yamaha a2000 - 10db I hear very low humm response from the sub. So I screwed up with receiver settings. Is there anyway to reset the receiver to factory default. Also, what volume you will set the Sub at in the receiver. Thanks
    Hannzz wrote: »
    Hi Guys:

    Yesterday as per Yamaha manual (downloaded) I ran YAPO it said put cross-over (low pass) at max and volume half way on the sub and run YAPO. After running YAPO and saving it I notice my sub boom is gone. It does not produce boom that used to be. Did I fry my sub in the process? I can hear boom when I test individual speakers and sub but boom sound is still very low. I ran test on youtube sub test and very soft. How can I reset Yamaha a2000 reset to factory default or any other suggestion? Thanks
  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited December 2011
    Hi Guys:

    Problem is resolved, during YPAO, receiver selected spks as large and that resulted in that sub was working. So I am now manually configuring and select small spks that resulted in sub is now working :). Ok this part is resolved. Now what volume should I select for each spk under Yamaha a2000 setup menu for spks, i.e., Front (RTi A7), CC (Csi A6) and Sorrund (Fxi A4). Behind Yamaha a2000 I have option surround and surround back which should I use. It is 5.1 system, sub is DSW 660. thanks
  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited December 2011
    In a perfect world, you'd have access to an SPL meter. There is no across-the-board setting for each channel. Unfortunately the room, furniture, treatments and speaker distances/heights/angles etc all have varying effects on the "volume" level that you need.

    Basically you just want to make sure they all sound the same - otherwise you won't have a seemless soundstage
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  • Hannzz
    Hannzz Posts: 34
    edited December 2011
    If it is true when I ran YPAO, it assigned different sound level to fronts. But unfortunately, it assign front spks to large and sub doesn't work in that case. Would assigning +5db to spks be unreasonable?
  • djperez81
    djperez81 Posts: 388
    edited December 2011
    Hannzz wrote: »
    If it is true when I ran YPAO, it assigned different sound level to fronts. But unfortunately, it assign front spks to large and sub doesn't work in that case. Would assigning +5db to spks be unreasonable?
    It would work at +5db but the depending where you sit in the room some speakers might over power others, thats where an spl meter would come in handy. Switch yout speakers to small let the sub do the rest crossed over at 80hz.
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  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited December 2011
    I generally let the auto-calibrate do it's thing for distance/room correction, then I change the speakers to small.

    I know this probably defeats some of the settings (being that it's making accomodations for the added bass that it expects) - but without an SPL meter, which I do not have either, I think it's about as close as we can get.

    The YPAO runs multiple calibration settings (I think 3-4 at least) - so having all but 1 being set is a better step in the right direction in my mind.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited December 2011
    FWIW, my DSWPro550 is very insensitive and requires a setting of 40/40 to even come remotely close to the mains' level. Never had a sub like that, everything else I've owned sounds best when set around 1/4 to 1/3 volume. If your receiver tries to auto-calibrate with this sub, it may not complete the process. A setting of +5 to +8 (strange, I know) and 80Hz crossover worked to get the sub to blend.

    Otherwise, it appears as if the sub is off.
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