Carver m200t

TroyD
TroyD Posts: 13,090
edited October 2003 in Electronics
In a previous post, Sean said about the m200t:
And why did I say "be forewarned". I have a reason for that too. This is not the place for that reason

I too (and this isn't supposed to be a pissing contest) am left scratching my head over this.

I've had mine for a little while now and last night, specifically, I put mine through the paces with the CA's, LSi9's and RTA12C's (yes, I'm tired humping all that gear around).

I can report back that it handled the loads without fail. Now, I didn't get crazy with the Amazings and really try to abuse it but at normal to above normal listening levels, it didn't even get warm. It doesn't control the bass on the Amazings as well as my bigger amps but I was pretty impressed overall.

After a couple hours with the Amazings, I swapped it over to the RTA12C's (which were simply placed in front of the Amazings) and cranked up the volume. No issues, not one. Same thing with the LSi's.....these were fairly short demos on the RTA's and LSi's as primarily I was interested in seeing if I could trip the protection circuits. I had to turn down the volume before I got to that point. WAY to loud.

I dunno, I'm at a loss. I'd actually say that the m200t has all the power you could really need for MOST applications.

BDT
I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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Comments

  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited October 2003
    And just imagine if you had a couple *bridged* mono.....

    I think I know at least 1 thing Sean will say (if he says anything at all at this point), but I want to hear him say it.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2003
    I have one :D . Yep, this little puppy has plenty enough power for most any application. I'm gonna have to pull it out soon and give it a turn.


    Without knowing the context in which he said it, I'd hate to make a guess other than he may have just not like the sound of it.
    Make it Funky! :)
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by gidrah
    I have one :D . Yep, this little puppy has plenty enough power for most any application. I'm gonna have to pull it out soon and give it a turn.

    That is one of the dirtiest things I have heard recently, :D Put that thing back in there!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2003
    :D:D:D:D
    Make it Funky! :)
  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited October 2003
    M-200t's rocked the Led Zepp dvd tonight. (one bridged for center, one for rears) I've only got a week left, enjoying them while I can :D
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    The AMC drove the lsi's most likely becuase of the increased power going into a 4 ohm load, I'm talking 100 watts at 8 ohms, your running in 4 ohms at what double that,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited October 2003
    Faster, you are not understanding impedance.

    Think of it as a measure of resistance the speaker gives the amp. A 4ohm speaker will be LESS 'resistive' (is that a word?) than an 8ohm speaker, and will draw much more current from the given amp.

    The amp would 'check out' sooner on a 4ohm speaker vs an 8ohm, due to the amount of current being drawn. So if he is was running 4ohm speakers with no problems, 8ohm would be a cake-walk comparitively.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    Oh ok, i understand now.. makes sense also.. well maybe the amp got bumped up by UPS? claims department please, LOL :D
    Kidding,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited October 2003
    You know Faster MAYBE it did.

    Troy and I were discussing it, and while we agree it's not the amp the 200 is, its still a GOOD amp. As Tour mentioned, the reserve current isn't real high, and while it may not have been able to 'loaf' on the 150's, I would think it could still drive them. Perhaps without as much impact as a higher powered, better built amp, but drive them nontheless.

    Do you have any smaller shelf speakers to try?

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    sure i do, everything in my setup list below can be tried.. although i have the csi40 Bi-amped with it now and its working fine, course i havent had it to the limits of the 150's but its still working, HUH .... actually i had it on the 70's also and it didnt shut down, but maybe i wasnt pushing it as hard..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    Is there a way to measure current draw at certain volume levels?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    amp for sale 200.00 obo, LOL kidding... were getting to "into" this stinkin amp, it's a dog.. lol atleast this particular one is, maybe not all AMC's.. it did sound distorted when bridged.. and at the high end of the volume.. this could be the result of clipping? No doubt.... is their a claim in order here? I hear UPS is great with claims,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    That would be between ATC and yourself. I don't think it would be right for anyone to influence you two, one way or another.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    I was kidding Doro.. :D

    But if this thing drove Lsi's and now it cant drive a 8 ohm speaker, what's left to consider.. ? NOt seans fault i'm sure.. Maybe a hard ride on a brown truck.. i don't know. and bridged it should have spanked the 150 it was hooked to.. it still shut down.. I need to e-mail ATC i suppose.


    edit: I e-mailed sean, I will leave this in his hands, thanks for all the help again ..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC