Congress finally agree's on something

chumlie
chumlie Posts: 8,658
edited December 2011 in The Clubhouse
About time. They came to a concensous that comercials are to loud. FCC to take care of it NEXT year. Hopefully. Our tax dallars at work. Unless the boys on K street disagree.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    Yeah I was reading about that yesterday, effective Dec 2012 I believe.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited December 2011
    That is why I pretty much DVR everything. Skip those loud commercials and get right back to the show.

    Of course this method is useless for sporting events.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited December 2011
    I'm waiting for the day when there's a 'next' button on the remote that when watching a recorded show, automatically skips to the exact point where the show starts back up again after the commercial.
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited December 2011
    chumlie wrote: »
    About time. They came to a concensous that comercials are to loud. FCC to take care of it NEXT year. Hopefully. Our tax dallars at work. Unless the boys on K street disagree.
    This thread belongs in a WTF section.
    Keiko wrote: »
    Only because the old boners don't have the nerve for loud noises when watching TV and they felt the need to do something about it. There are features built into displays these days to remedy this and remotes do work. Not to get to political, so this is in the form of a rhetorical question; aren't there more important issues besides television commercials they should be concerned about? Idiots! :confused:
    Agreed I can think of a couple that just might be a wee bit more important. Your tax dollars hard at work again. :rolleyes:
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  • obieone
    obieone Posts: 5,077
    edited December 2011
    Thank God! That window ledge was getting cold!:rolleyes:
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  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited December 2011
    Really? Tax payers have been complaining about this for literally decades. I more of the mind that it's about effing time the FCC got around to doing something about it. Granted, it's not be as important as fixing roads or defending the country, but this is exactly the sort of the thing I'd rather have the FCC doing than crapping a brick because someone said a naughty word or showed a bit of boob on tv.
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  • DMara
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    edited December 2011
    chumlie wrote: »
    About time. They came to a concensous that comercials are to loud. FCC to take care of it NEXT year. Hopefully. Our tax dallars at work. Unless the boys on K street disagree.

    These old politicians apparently didn't use dynamic-equalizer / dynamic-volume sound processors :mrgreen:
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  • BlueFox
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    edited December 2011
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    That is why I pretty much DVR everything. Skip those loud commercials and get right back to the show.

    Of course this method is useless for sporting events.

    Why? I Tivo every Shark hockey game, and start watching once long enough has elapsed so that after fast forwarding through the commercials, and the two between period breaks, the game has already ended. Nothing more irritating with Tivo than fast forwarding through a show and you end up in real-time.

    Granted, I have to watch it before I am exposed to something that can give me the final score, but that is not difficult.
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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited December 2011
    If they do pass something like that, it will be interesting to see how they define "too loud", and how they enforce it.

    Technically, I'd bet they aren't any louder than the loudest parts of the movie/tv show that you're watching. However, there are lots of lulls in the program, making it seem quieter overall. Then, BAM, the commerical is full speed ahead with pumping music, a booming announcer, etc. But if you were to go back to the last action sequence and compare that to the commercial, I bet they are fairly comparable...
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited December 2011
    Yeah, been following that one too. Don't know how you can pass that when you supposedly have a right to due process as a citizen anyway. The only thing left out is the definition of what an "enemy combatant" is. Wanna bet that definition gets expanded to include speech ?
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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited December 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    This isn't the only topic they seem to be in agreement on. Check this out and kiss your Bill of Rights goodbye. Scary stuff!

    http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-detention-bill-heads-to-obamas-desk/

    If they only used that power for people they 100% knew were terrorists, I could almost agree with it. However, both you and I know that the government will abuse that power however they see fit...
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,039
    edited December 2011
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    That is why I pretty much DVR everything. Skip those loud commercials and get right back to the show.

    Of course this method is useless for sporting events.

    Using the 30 second advance on my remote, if I time it just right, I can go right from the end of a play to the snap on a NFL game...unless they are running a no huddle. I don't miss commercials at all(since I FF thru them) but I'm lost at work when they talk about one they've seen...small price to pay!
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  • evhudsons
    evhudsons Posts: 1,175
    edited December 2011
    I used to have a Sonic Blue Replay DVR that automatically skipped commercials without having to use a remote. It was awesome. As soon as the regular part of the show ended it would pick right back up. They were sued by the commerial industry and had to stop making them with the autoskip feature. There is a code used to cue commercials that it would recognize. I'm sure the ability to do that is still there but I'm sure you would have to tweak the DVR or use a computer with special software. It can be done. I don't mind the sudden loudness but sometimes my wife yells at me as if I turned everything up on purpose. It can be quite a bit much louder than the show sometimes and when it happens that rapidly it's too late to do much about it. There are functions to limit this on AVR's, but I hate to use any limiting function such as midnight, etc.

    I'd rather tolerate a few seconds of loud wife/commercials than give up my rights, but I didn't read the whole article so I'm not sure if there is any rights giving up, but if there are I want to keep mine.

    ....maybe I should read it, huh? Thanks for the thread post, I'm on this!
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited December 2011
    While I agree with the concept, I just hope NOT ONE PENNY (of what has to be borrowed and will be repaid with interest by our kids) was legislated for enforcement.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited December 2011
    I just hope NOT ONE PENNY (of what has to be borrowed and will be repaid with interest by our kids) was legislated for enforcement.

    Uh...yeah, keep dreaming bro. Why do you think the federal budget has built in increases every year ? When you hear of a cut in the budget, it isn't a real cut but a cut in proposed increased spending. Keep giving them money and they will pass more legislation to spend it.

    The FCC definately has a job to do, but most of this can be done in the private sector than having to create legislation and taking up valuable time and resources. Hasn't the private sector already responded with volume leveling circuits in newer TV's ? Guess thats not good enough.
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  • quadzilla
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    edited December 2011
    To the OP, also, you do realize that the FCC is not part of Congress, yes? They're an independent regulatory agency. So technically, Congress' record of failing at everything is still intact.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited December 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Uh...yeah, keep dreaming bro. Why do you think the federal budget has built in increases every year ? When you hear of a cut in the budget, it isn't a real cut but a cut in proposed increased spending. Keep giving them money and they will pass more legislation to spend it.

    The FCC definately has a job to do, but most of this can be done in the private sector than having to create legislation and taking up valuable time and resources. Hasn't the private sector already responded with volume leveling circuits in newer TV's ? Guess thats not good enough.

    Yeah, well I can dream, can't I? :mrgreen:
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,715
    edited December 2011
    Thanks for posting that Keiko. Been biting my tongue on that for awhile, and all I can say is, "Wow".

    If the Constitition had to be boiled down to just a few paragraphs, the requirement for the "Writ of Habeas Corpus" would have to be in there.
    You're an American citizen and get locked up ? You have a RIGHT to demand to appear before a judge to hear what charges you're being held on.
    Under this crap, you don't.
    They don't have to tell you anything.
    They don't have to tell your family/friends/lawyer who may be looking for you that they have you locked up.

    It's amazing that there's more in the media about Kim Kardashian's breakup and/or derriere than there is about this issue.

    I just hope that this isn't the kind of democracy we're hoping to export to the Middle East. :rolleyes:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited December 2011
    It's amazing that there's more in the media about Kim Kardashian's breakup and/or derriere than there is about this issue.

    I just hope that this isn't the kind of democracy we're hoping to export to the Middle East. :rolleyes:

    How true Mr. Big Blue. I'm guess though that it's not so much us exporting this thought but importing it from the middle east.

    While the press is busy with worthless republican debates, and Hollywood fluff, it reminds me of the old magicians trick of watching this hand while the other is doing something you don't want anyone to pay attention to.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited December 2011
    quadzilla wrote: »
    To the OP, also, you do realize that the FCC is not part of Congress, yes? They're an independent regulatory agency. So technically, Congress' record of failing at everything is still intact.
    Yes i do. But you know as well as i do that if Congress does not like a regulation they will water it down so it makes no differance at all whats actually trying to get accomplished with said regulation. You are correct they are failing at everything. But they do agree on this.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited December 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    This isn't the only topic they seem to be in agreement on. Check this out and kiss your Bill of Rights goodbye. Scary stuff!

    http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-detention-bill-heads-to-obamas-desk/

    Now all they need is a crisis and they can start filling up all those FEMA camps they have all over the U.S.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited December 2011
    As an aside... they have been stockpiling coffins, millions of them, large enough to hold the remains of 6 200 pound men. They were fabricated under a FEMA contract by a plastics company in Georgia. Railcars have been built with restraint systems needed to transport human beings, and the FEMA camps all are served by rail....

    Nothing to see here people. Move along, move along.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited December 2011
    As an aside... they have been stockpiling coffins, millions of them, large enough to hold the remains of 6 200 pound men. They were fabricated under a FEMA contract by a plastics company in Georgia. Railcars have been built with restraint systems needed to transport human beings, and the FEMA camps all are served by rail....

    Nothing to see here people. Move along, move along.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited December 2011
    Why don't you use Google and find out for yourself.:rolleyes:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited December 2011
    Just out of curiousity, has any republican candidate mentioned any of this in their stump speeches ? Seems like a no brainer if you ask me but then again, how many republicans voted for this turkey of a bill to begin with ? Guess I answered my own question. Anyone have the feeling like everyone else knows something thats going to happen but you ?
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  • nooshinjohn
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    edited December 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Just out of curiousity, has any republican candidate mentioned any of this in their stump speeches ? Seems like a no brainer if you ask me but then again, how many republicans voted for this turkey of a bill to begin with ? Guess I answered my own question. Anyone have the feeling like everyone else knows something thats going to happen but you ?


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  • nooshinjohn
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    edited December 2011
    You should do some homework on the dozens of executive orders that have flown under the radar for DECADES that are just waiting to be invoked at the stroke of a pen or even a phone call.
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited December 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    This isn't the only topic they seem to be in agreement on. Check this out and kiss your Bill of Rights goodbye. Scary stuff!

    http://www.infowars.com/indefinite-detention-bill-heads-to-obamas-desk/

    I can't believe someone on here actually quoted from this guys website and took it seriously. Have you ever seen him talk, he has to be Hitlers great grandson or something.. classic nutjob
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited December 2011
    When you piss off enough people, which would be harder to overthrow ? A smaller government, or a larger more diverse one ? You have your answer as to why government is a constant growing entity.

    Eventually people will rise up under an overly oppresive government. However at the rate of which it is grabbing power away from the citizens and diluteing the constitution, those chances become smaller every day.
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