.....AWwww Snap....Pioneer P860MP, and AMP

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KaosTsoc
KaosTsoc Posts: 372
edited November 2011 in Car Audio & Electronics
Ok. So , I think I might have a bit of a dilemma here. As shown above, I have an pioneer P860, and I also have now an Alpine PDX F6. The Pioneer is a high volt system, and is showing that is puts out 6.5 volts. The PDX has a max input of 4 Volt. So, is this a big issue in the mismatch? Should I get another amp that can handle 6.5 Volts, Will it clip the PDX amp???? Please help.



Thanks.
2006 Prerunner Access Cab
5 Speed 4 cycl 2wd

Audio:
Pioneer P860 Head Unit
Polk Audio MM6501
Alpine PDX F-6
Two SR124(SVC)
Alpine PDX M12
Kinetik HC2000 battery and Sleeve
200 Amp Mean Green High Output Alternator




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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited November 2011
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    No, you're fine. Just adjust the gains properly and all will work as it should.
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  • KaosTsoc
    KaosTsoc Posts: 372
    edited November 2011
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    Ok. Good deal. Thanks Mac. I was just worried that with the mismatch I might clip the amp, or something. Will this affect the sound?


    Thanks.
    2006 Prerunner Access Cab
    5 Speed 4 cycl 2wd

    Audio:
    Pioneer P860 Head Unit
    Polk Audio MM6501
    Alpine PDX F-6
    Two SR124(SVC)
    Alpine PDX M12
    Kinetik HC2000 battery and Sleeve
    200 Amp Mean Green High Output Alternator




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  • pentoncm
    pentoncm Posts: 379
    edited November 2011
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    I would just turn the gain sensitivity down all the way on the pdx amp. Find out at what volume the pioneer puts out 4v and you should be good using that as your max volume setting.

    Yes if you send the amp a higher voltage than it is set to receive then it will clip and sound bad.
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  • KaosTsoc
    KaosTsoc Posts: 372
    edited November 2011
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    So would I still clip the amp, if I had the gains on the amp as low as they can go?


    Thanks.
    2006 Prerunner Access Cab
    5 Speed 4 cycl 2wd

    Audio:
    Pioneer P860 Head Unit
    Polk Audio MM6501
    Alpine PDX F-6
    Two SR124(SVC)
    Alpine PDX M12
    Kinetik HC2000 battery and Sleeve
    200 Amp Mean Green High Output Alternator




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  • Vital
    Vital Posts: 747
    edited November 2011
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    IDK specifics on P860 but most units will put out their rates Volts only at full volume. Most units will also clip when volume is "up there" so having your volume set on max is never a good thing (well, in most cases) to begin with.

    As long as you amp's gian is low and volume on headunit doesn't go ALL the way up and stays there i'm sure u'll be fine.
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    Polk Audio SR6500 active and SR124-dvc sealed
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  • KaosTsoc
    KaosTsoc Posts: 372
    edited November 2011
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    Ok. Good deal. So, if I put the gain on the amp at max, then anytime I crank my volume up to loud, not max volume I will run the risk clipping the amp then right??


    Thanks.
    2006 Prerunner Access Cab
    5 Speed 4 cycl 2wd

    Audio:
    Pioneer P860 Head Unit
    Polk Audio MM6501
    Alpine PDX F-6
    Two SR124(SVC)
    Alpine PDX M12
    Kinetik HC2000 battery and Sleeve
    200 Amp Mean Green High Output Alternator




    Need a DJ, photobooth, or both for rent?

    http://photoboothdallas.org
  • arun1963
    arun1963 Posts: 1,797
    edited November 2011
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    The easiest way to set your gains is to turn the gain all the way down at the amp and set the volume on your hu to about 80% of max. Now raise your amp gains till the point you hear distortion and then back off a bit.

    RMS volts on most hu's are measured at max volume, with everything boosted. My p-800 is rated at 5v. The couple of times I measured it at 55/63 I think I got something like 2.8v, of course this was with the eq cut a fair bit. I'm sure most hu's if not all would be in the same boat.
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited November 2011
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    arun1963 wrote: »
    The easiest way to set your gains is to turn the gain all the way down at the amp and set the volume on your hu to about 80% of max. Now raise your amp gains till the point you hear distortion and then back off a bit.

    RMS volts on most hu's are measured at max volume, with everything boosted. My p-800 is rated at 5v. The couple of times I measured it at 55/63 I think I got something like 2.8v, of course this was with the eq cut a fair bit. I'm sure most hu's if not all would be in the same boat.

    This. 'Nuff said. :wink:
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    08 Car Audio Nationals 1st ~ 07 N Georgia Nationals 1st ~ 06 Carl Casper Nationals 1st ~ USACi 05 Southeast AutumnFest 1st

    polkaudio SR6500 --- polkaudio MM1040 x2 -- Pioneer P99 -- Rockford Fosgate P1000X5D
  • KaosTsoc
    KaosTsoc Posts: 372
    edited November 2011
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    arun1963 wrote: »
    RMS volts on most hu's are measured at max volume, with everything boosted. My p-800 is rated at 5v. The couple of times I measured it at 55/63 I think I got something like 2.8v, of course this was with the eq cut a fair bit. I'm sure most hu's if not all would be in the same boat.


    That sounds good to me. Thanks.
    2006 Prerunner Access Cab
    5 Speed 4 cycl 2wd

    Audio:
    Pioneer P860 Head Unit
    Polk Audio MM6501
    Alpine PDX F-6
    Two SR124(SVC)
    Alpine PDX M12
    Kinetik HC2000 battery and Sleeve
    200 Amp Mean Green High Output Alternator




    Need a DJ, photobooth, or both for rent?

    http://photoboothdallas.org