Emotiva Holiday sale
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Nice pic of Giorgio Mike,lol. -
Don't see when the Emo sale ends.
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Don't see when the Emo sale ends.
It never truly ends... when you can't sell it, you need to **** stuff out.
j/k
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Don't see when the Emo sale ends.
Having tried all of the usual suspects in the used market - nad, adcom, carver, acurus, etc., I can tell you that to my ears the Emotiva amps sound at least as good if not better, and are sold new with a five year warranty for similar prices as the used competition. In that sense they're always on sale. The sale doesn't end until they start raising prices, like many successful companies do once they've broken through. But as things stand now, you can get a brand new 125/200 watt amp with a five year warranty for $299. When the sale is over I assume it goes back to $349. Either price for what you receive represents an astonishing accomplishment.
Two Channel Setup:
Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
DAC: Arcam irDac
Source: iMac
Remote Control: iPad Mini
3.2 Home Theater Setup:
Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
Center: Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
TV Source: DirecTV Genie -
Cubdog, did you end up picking up the XDA-2? That's a pheonomenal price. Again another thread with an honest question and tons of thread crapping. I keep seeing this over and over.
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The down-side to Brand specific forums such as Polk is that you have Brand-Specific followers. You can't have an adult conversation with children in the room.
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The down-side to Brand specific forums such as Polk is that you have Brand-Specific followers. You can't have an adult conversation with children in the room.
Pot, kettle...
You already know where the door is, so please close it behind you.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
It's everywhere, it's like people see red when they see a brand name or discussion on certain topics, they have to start throwing stones or insulting people that like certain types of gear. I'm on several audio forums, just haven't participated much on this one until recently and this seems to be more prevalent here than I've seen on others. On a few of them the thread or posts just get deleted for 'thread crapping' and the offenders cautioned/banned with repeat occurrences. You have an OP soliciting a certain piece of information such as here but then suddenly it avalanches into a ton of brand-bashing posts and then factions outright insulting each other. The folks in these forums are a bunch of hobbyists that share the commonality of loving music and the ancillary equipment that reproduces it; you'd think that a group with that much in common would get along and find ways to interact in a productive manner but the need for human beings to become divisive is so great that even among a like-minded group people find ways to argue over brands, opinions, etc. There are ways that people can express these opinions such as 'I've never been a big fan of emotiva, I have preferred x brand' without being outright denigrating to the person that likes said brand. We've all got brands we're not a fan of but we've all got different ears. We're founded on diversity of thought, appearance, etc. are we really going to foam at the mouth and argue with each other over audio philosophies and brands? We're all in different households with different incomes and needs that drive our purchasing decisions.
My second observation is that these arguments are coordinated, i.e. there are like minded cabals and factions. When one person voices an opinion that is contrary to a certain cabal within a day the same group of affiliated individuals drops in supportive posts and tries to smother the contrary opinion with raw volume of posts. Eventually an opposing cabal comes into play and the threads become completely unsalvageable with each side trying to 'win' the debate through volume of posts quantity of like-minded folks sharing the same opinion. If enough people said that the earth was flat in a contested thread then obviously that faction would be the winner by volume of posts and quantity of like-minded supporting posts.
I'm guessing that there is bad blood between certain forum members that has built up for years and every new thread is an opportunity for another battleground. I don't know. It's just an observation. Lots of demagoguery going on with lots of followers for the demagogues and the immediate desire to supress or remove divergent opinions. -
The down-side to Brand specific forums such as Polk is that you have Brand-Specific followers. You can't have an adult conversation with children in the room.
It's always the same group. You learn to ignore it. Ironically, I suppose, those same people become hysterical when their gear is called into question. An almost comical hypocrisy.
Two Channel Setup:
Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
DAC: Arcam irDac
Source: iMac
Remote Control: iPad Mini
3.2 Home Theater Setup:
Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
Center: Klipsch RP-160M
Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
TV Source: DirecTV Genie -
The down-side to Brand specific forums such as Polk is that you have Brand-Specific followers. You can't have an adult conversation with children in the room.
You couldn't be more wrong in your uninformed comment. While this is the Polk Audio forum, we discuss any brand of audio gear ever made from vintage to new quite freely. While you may not like your baby being called ugly that does not mean folks with expereinced opinions should not voice them.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
I guess the question is, why does someone have the desire to call someone else's baby ugly? Ugly is subjective not fact, there are ways to say you don't prefer the appearance of the baby without making the parents feel terrible.
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You couldn't be more wrong in your uninformed comment. While this is the Polk Audio forum, we discuss any brand of audio gear ever made from vintage to new quite freely. While you may not like your baby being called ugly that does not mean folks with expereinced opinions should not voice them.
Agreed...
This thread was pretty tame, with a little ribbing, till the last few decided to make it more then what it is... -
mccarty250 wrote: »I guess the question is, why does someone have the desire to call someone else's baby ugly? Ugly is subjective not fact, there are ways to say you don't prefer the appearance of the baby without making the parents feel terrible.
Now that's funny....
There are people that don't like my car, and I even have buddy's give me a hard time about it, but do I give a rats ****? Hell no, I love love my car, but I never feel terrible about it.. LOL!!
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It is compared to the others Toolfan66, I will agree. Nobody has outright called someone else a liar or stupid or uninformed....yet.
I'd almost like to create a Bose thread just to see what happens there but if i did that I would straight up be a terrible troller. That would be the most epic trainwreck on the forum. I bet it's happened before though at some point right? -
Here's a friendly suggestion, stop trying to police the forum as it's not needed or wanted.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Agreed...
This thread was pretty tame, with a little ribbing, till the last few decided to make it more then what it is...
I am in complete agreement. What gets my hackles up is when some newb jumps in here and calls the members of this family a bunch of "children". Many here have forgotten more about the hobby of audio than this guy will ever learn.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
I came here when I bought my Polks. As a relative noob to the Audio side of things, ( I know enough to know I don't know enough) I welcome everyone's input. If I don't agree with it I will ignore it. If I can't afford a suggestion I will ask for a cost effective alternative.
Flaming happens everywhere, almost makes me miss the days of the format war on the HD forums....almost. LOL -
But your opinion is wanted in literally every topic possible F1nut? Yours should be the sole determinant of what should be said or not? Is my frustration at your hostility level frustrating you and making you hostile?
Perhaps you should contact a mod and let them know that you are offended by someone asking for things to cool down.
Toolfan66, I say some pretty brutal stuff to my buddies and expect them to give me tons of crap. That's what I expect from my buddies. I'm with you on that one, I usually have a super thick skin strangely enough some of the stuff I'm reading here makes my skin a lot thinner and it's unusual. I'm not the only one saying this is the thing
Perhaps if I burned a lot of time and got another 10 or 20 people to back me and jump into my thread then I could become a demagogue of peace, the Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King of the Polk forums right? My ego isn't that big, I'm just someone with time to burn over the holidays that wishes people could talk about things without going for each other's throats.
Just saying this and wishing for better is making people go for my throat. It's kind of self illustrating. -
nooshinjohn wrote: »It never truly ends... when you can't sell it, you need to **** stuff out.
j/k
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But your opinion is wanted in literally every topic possible F1nut? Yours should be the sole determinant of what should be said or not? Is my frustration at your hostility level frustrating you and making you hostile?
Perhaps you should contact a mod and let them know that you are offended by someone asking for things to cool down.
Me hostile....LOL
Me offended......LOL
Me contact a mod about you.....LOL
You're a funny dude.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
F1nut, if we were in the same place I with 5 or 6 beers in our bellies I would crank up some Steely Dan or Dire Straits and give you a great big man hug. If I could feed you a few digital beers to lighten you up I would. Glad I could give you some LOL's on this fine evening even if they were LOL's of sarcasm
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EMO post supplied as requested above. Kumbayah to be sung shortly.
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mccarty250, let me pose this queston. You walk into someone's house to find the folks in there behaving in a way you don't see fit. Do you say something, do you just leave or do you shut up while trying to understand the dynamics of the relationships those folks have?Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
mccarty250 wrote: »F1nut, if we were in the same place I with 5 or 6 beers in our bellies I would crank up some Steely Dan or Dire Straits and give you a great big man hug. If I could feed you a few digital beers to lighten you up I would. Glad I could give you some LOL's on this fine evening even if they were LOL's of sarcasm
Root beer for me, thanks.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Was I invited into the home of these folks or have I kicked in their door wearing stormtrooper boots to impose my will upon them like a post-modern conquistador? Have I come there to conquer and impose my will upon them or was I invited over for dinner and welcomed into their home only to see something I considered less than savory but not illegal? There's a lot I don't see fit and I'm less than politically correct but the world does not await my opinion with bated breath. No clear cut answer can definitively be given. You'll have to provide more specifics to box me into the answer that you want me to give you so you can deconstruct it?
Perhaps you're asking if I was in a home and a bloodbath ensued if i would intervene?
I wish you would spend as many cycles responding to me in a more peaceful thread about your opinion regarding SHMCD or perhaps your opinion on SACD versus vinyl, I was curious about what you thought of those formats and comparisons and it was an honest non-flame-baited question for you. -
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Not yet, my black t-shirt is not quite saturated enough and there are still too many tracks left on my Cure album. Maybe I'm dating myself, I'm pretty sure in my youth Emo would have been the folks listening to The Cure and Tears for Fears.
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Some brands get more or less love depending on who you ask. Emo might not get a lot love here, but Emo gets plenty of love on their own forum. Brands carry a lot of weight or distaste depending on the person. Just the way it is!2Ch Tube Audio Convert
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Aboroth00, in the Emotiva forums it's like Emo gear walks on water and everyone is waiting with bated breath for the next model to come out like it's a gift from god just like any vendor-specific forum. I find that to be interesting behavior as well. Definitely polarized reactions to Emotiva gear truly. I personally consider them to be a 'good bang for the buck product' during their sales. Can you get a better dac than the XDA-2? Sure. Is the XDA-2 at the cutrate price of $249 right now a good deal for a dac and a preamp with that build quality? In my opinion and that of plenty of others it is. Is it a good product for someone who has a $10k preamp and $5k dac? Probably not, it would probably get looked down upon. This hobby is an endless crack addiction of 'moving up the ladder' truly. Endless. Once you've moved up that ladder and spent tons of money is it worth turning around and pissing down the ladder on the guy who's not at the same level of purchasing? For the price point the XDA-2 (which is the only emotiva product I can speak to as I own one) it sounds really good, has a nonexistant noise floor, puts out some decent gain to my balanced and unbalanced amps. It played red book format audio, SACD, 96/24, 192/24 without issue which is the bare minimum requirement IMO for a DAC. Volume control is resistor ladder based and goes up smoothly with set increments/push. Build quality appears good and aesthetically it's a nice looking unit if you like the whole 'blue lights' thing. It is what it is, it's not a complete hissing horrible product that is going to burn out that is from a company that won't back you. Will other things sound better? I'm sure there are plenty. Am I happy with mine? Yes. Am I a emotiva fanboy? Probably not, I will buy whatever sounds best to me for any certain application and at whatever pricepoint I felt like messing with at that time.
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mccarty250 wrote: »Aboroth00, in the Emotiva forums it's like Emo gear walks on water and everyone is waiting with bated breath for the next model to come out like it's a gift from god just like any vendor-specific forum. I find that to be interesting behavior as well. Definitely polarized reactions to Emotiva gear truly. I personally consider them to be a 'good bang for the buck product' during their sales. Can you get a better dac than the XDA-2? Sure. Is the XDA-2 at the cutrate price of $249 right now a good deal for a dac and a preamp with that build quality? In my opinion and that of plenty of others it is. Is it a good product for someone who has a $10k preamp and $5k dac? Probably not, it would probably get looked down upon. This hobby is an endless crack addiction of 'moving up the ladder' truly. Endless. Once you've moved up that ladder and spent tons of money is it worth turning around and pissing down the ladder on the guy who's not at the same level of purchasing? For the price point the XDA-2 (which is the only emotiva product I can speak to as I own one) it sounds really good, has a nonexistant noise floor, puts out some decent gain to my balanced and unbalanced amps. It played red book format audio, SACD, 96/24, 192/24 without issue which is the bare minimum requirement IMO for a DAC. Volume control is resistor ladder based and goes up smoothly with set increments/push. Build quality appears good and aesthetically it's a nice looking unit if you like the whole 'blue lights' thing. It is what it is, it's not a complete hissing horrible product that is going to burn out that is from a company that won't back you. Will other things sound better? I'm sure there are plenty. Am I happy with mine? Yes. Am I a emotiva fanboy? Probably not, I will buy whatever sounds best to me for any certain application and at whatever pricepoint I felt like messing with at that time.
I' guessing at that point Schiit and used Dacmagic options are viable alternatives depending on taste, etc.
Sorry you got miffed by the brand nonsense. I just learned to ignore it all. I've owned the XDA-1 and heard/owned some of the Emo amps. I really liked the XDA considering the price I got it for and their amps performed fine. Some people might snub their nose at certain gear, but I'm certainly not rich enough to do that now. I think the guys around here are open to most gear and most of the emo bashing has been a result of the emo fanboyism.
Not sure how long you've been in the hobby, but price, prestige play a lot into how a brand is perceived. On the other side of the coin, I know myself and plenty of other people wouldn't go near some of the big brand name stuff out there.
If Emo made their stuff cost 10x more, I'm sure it'd turn different heads. Everyone has an opinion even if they haven't heard it properly setup, synergized, with compatible gear, yadda yadda. Where I am in the hobby now, I'm not sure whether stuff I'm changing sounds "better" anymore, sounds different that's for sure. I can certainly think it's better in my own noggin. Take what everyone says with a grain of salt. My $0.02.2Ch Tube Audio Convert
