Squeezebox Touch-tips, tricks & tweaks

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    Reported.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Received my duet controller last night for my Touch--now that's what I'm talking about! Very nice.

    I really did not like that controller, the wheel is such a pain in the ****, tbh, and I found it was very slow as well. If it were me, I would have spent that money on an old ipod touch just to run ipeng on. YMMV, but I prefer iPeng over the Logitech controller any day.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    I can see how large thumbs would struggle, but so far it's working well for me. The wheel is a little hokey--and takes some dexderity, but I'm getting there.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited December 2011
    I bought a Duet controller for my Touch's also (or is it Touchi). I can't imagine being without it.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    Have you tried an app yet? Once I tried an app on the phone with a touch screen, I couldn't stand that remote.

    Not to mention, again, the app let's you play remotely. I have a Squeezebox in my car!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited December 2011
    I bought an Android tablet just to use as my Touch remote. It hasn't arrived yet but I'll let you all know how it works out.

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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited December 2011
    cubdog wrote: »
    I bought an Android tablet just to use as my Touch remote. It hasn't arrived yet but I'll let you all know how it works out.

    cubdog

    same functionality like SqueezePad?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited December 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    Have you tried an app yet? Once I tried an app on the phone with a touch screen, I couldn't stand that remote.

    Not to mention, again, the app let's you play remotely. I have a Squeezebox in my car!
    +1K! Before I had apps, I thought that remote was cool... Now? Not so much.
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited December 2011
    cubdog wrote: »
    I bought an Android tablet just to use as my Touch remote. It hasn't arrived yet but I'll let you all know how it works out.

    cubdog
    Which one did you get? I was thinking the same thing when those $99 HP Touchpads were selling out, but I was too slow to get one.
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited December 2011
    My parents' have squeeze commander on their Motorola Xoom tablet and I have it on my Galaxy S2 - works well. Very similar to iPeng on the iPhone / iPad minus the player functionality. Have to use Squeezeplayer app for that.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    Sweet video. Home boy has the Transporter! NICE!!!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    Do you have to activate a cell phone to use it as a remote? (sorry I'm cell phone challenged)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,195
    edited December 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Do you have to activate a cell phone to use it as a remote? (sorry I'm cell phone challenged)

    I am afraid so, how would you DL the app to run it?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    see my disclaimer...LOL
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I am afraid so, how would you DL the app to run it?

    H9

    Nah, Brock you can use wifi. You can always use an unactivated iPhone as an overpriced iPod Touch. I've seen posts from folks who have gone out and bought an older generation iPod Touch on the cheap for the single purpose of running a Squeezebox app on it.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,195
    edited December 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    Nah, Brock you can use wifi. You can always use an unactivated iPhone as an overpriced iPod Touch. I've seen posts from folks who have gone out and bought an older generation iPod Touch on the cheap for the single purpose of running a Squeezebox app on it.

    I guess I hadn't thought of that. I suppose that would apply to an Android based phone as well.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited December 2011
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Which one did you get? I was thinking the same thing when those $99 HP Touchpads were selling out, but I was too slow to get one.
    I'm getting an Arnova 7 G2 which is an Andriod 2.3. I'll download the SqueezeCommander app as it seems to get great reviews. As to the exact functions of the SqueezeCommander app I'll have to wait and see. Most users seem to prefer it to the Duet remote.

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    Once you get used to using a touch screen app, you will absolutely hate the thumb wheel on the duet controller. Mark my words.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited December 2011
    I'm sure of that. The wheel is a pain in the butt, no doubt.
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited December 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    Once you get used to using a touch screen app, you will absolutely hate the thumb wheel on the duet controller. Mark my words.

    Doubt it. I hate touchscreens. I'll take tactile controls over a control that I have to look at to use with zero tactile feedback any day. The only reason I own a Touchpad was because of the fire sale pricing, and the first accessory I bought for it was the bluetooth keyboard. Touchscreens are a fad.

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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    Impossible to use the duet remote without looking at the device. It's all screen/menu driven, but controlled with a thumbwheel and a center button.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited December 2011
    So the boxes came last night, and I've been playing with the format. First impression is very good. CI power supply looks is impressively clean and worth its place in the display. I configured iPad, iPhone, and Harmony One. All configured painlessly. Download the Media Server and scanned my Macbook Pro for all audio (it picked up all formats flawlessly). I ripped one of my Bob James CD (Playin' Hooky) in AIFF. Trying to objectively assess it within the next few hours to hear if I can draw any meaningful conclusion. So far so good. Btw, it goes to the Pre/Pro on SDIF Coax using AQ mid-grade cable, thought about upgrading the IEC but I think I might overdone it if I do.

    Here is an interesting part: Playin' Hookie album is a HDCD, so I when I ripped it using iTunes AIFF format, it brought over in HDCD version. How do I know? because the Marantz decoding it in HDCD (it lights up during playback).

    How cool is that?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    brgman wrote: »
    That's the one i used.
    I guess the just don't like me!
    Damn!

    Actually, no, I think you're right. They were very responsive to me right up until the point where I paid them. But that was going on three weeks ago, and I still haven't received my eff'ing wire from Welborne, and they have not responded to my inquiries asking where it is. Ridiculous.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,505
    edited December 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    But that was going on three weeks ago, and I still haven't received my eff'ing wire from Welborne, and they have not responded to my inquiries asking where it is.

    I guess their service hasn't changed much since some of the RAS members got our Welborne Labs power supplies. And that was a year and some months ago. They sent my kit and the wire and/or sleeving followed a week or so later.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,505
    edited December 2011
    polkatese wrote: »
    So the boxes came last night, and I've been playing with the format. First impression is very good. CI power supply looks is impressively clean and worth its place in the display.

    Kewl! Dusty does a nice job. I've owned some of his gear previously.

    I prefer my Droid over the Controller. When I didn't have a Droid, I loved that Controller.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited December 2011
    Thanks Rich. I guess over the decade of being here I am used to do business with outstanding fellows like Frank Dai, Gary Dodd, Joe Abrams, et. al., and dealing with Dusty, I am placing him in the same category as these select few Gents.

    By the way, I am giddy like a little boy over this little gem of display options on this Touch: ANALOG display of a pair of VU Meter! just wow. :smile:


    sorry for the lousy pics quality..
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,195
    edited December 2011
    Not to take anything away from Dusty and CIA, but the Welborne is well built too. They are just very slow and unresponsive, which I realize leads to suspicion. In the future I will probably recommend CIA for your power supply needs. IIRC, they didn't offer anything for the Touch when all of us in the RAS bought ours. Plus the Welborne was 20% off. I hope Welborne comes through for you guys.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited December 2011
    WTF is the RAS?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,195
    edited December 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    WTF is the RAS?

    Rockford Audio Society or Regional Audio Society :razz:

    myself
    Ricardo
    Doug (dkg999)
    Rich (SCompracer)
    my brother (Blakeh)

    all bought Touch's and Welborne supplies at the same time, when Ricardo found a 30% off on-line coupon.

    A bunch of us local polkies who hang out on occassion.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,606
    edited December 2011
    Nah, Brock you can use wifi. You can always use an unactivated iPhone as an overpriced iPod Touch. I've seen posts from folks who have gone out and bought an older generation iPod Touch on the cheap for the single purpose of running a Squeezebox app on it.

    Yup you don't need an activated phone or a phone w/ a sim card in it or anything. hell my old iPhone 3GS' Navigon GPS app still works without any actual service :) But yah ..any unactivated Android phone / tablet or Iphone / iPod Touch over wifi will do the trick. The squeezebox controller was made obsolete the day iPeng and Squeezecommander came out.
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