Water in my car

ryanjoachim
ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
edited November 2011 in The Clubhouse
So, I've got water in my car. Not just a little dampness...I'm talking about a puddle up to a 1/2" deep sometimes. It appears to be coming from the front of the car somewhere and moving across the floor (car is on a slight incline). This has been happening since I first bought the car a couple years ago, but I've just dealt with it till now.

I assume it has to be a bad seal of the windshield...but I know absolutely nothing about cars, so I'm probably wrong.

Any ideas?
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited November 2011
    Wait till its dry outside then take a hose to the outside of the car and look for where the water is coming in. My dad did this on one of his cars and it worked decent....
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  • codyc1ark
    codyc1ark Posts: 2,532
    edited November 2011
    Wait till its dry outside then take a hose to the outside of the car and look for where the water is coming in. My dad did this on one of his cars and it worked decent....

    +1, thats how any shop is going to find it. It may be that one of your drainholes is plugged up somewhere, so water is going to look for the next route of course, should be an easy fix, depending.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited November 2011
    Most likely a drain is plugged somewhere in the front of the car between the fire wall and windshield area. Many times leaves, dirt, grime get in the drain holes and backs up and comes in. What car is it?

    H9
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,395
    edited November 2011
    Did you buy the car from PFB?:cheesygrin:


    Agreed with the guys. A dry day and a garden hose will tell all.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited November 2011
    Do you have a moonroof? Thought it was a windshield leak but it was the moonroof.

    The moonroof in my Impala leaks if we don't use it for a long period.
  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited November 2011
    Depending on the car, it could also be the door seals. Water can travel a long way from the leak to where you finally see it.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    Do you have a moonroof? Thought it was a windshield leak but it was the moonroof.

    The moonroof in my Impala leaks if we don't use it for a long period.

    Check your drains if the seals are fine and touching the glass. Is it older then the 2006 model?
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2011
    I doubt that you have a minivan, but I had a Caravan with a rear window windshield wiper fluid resevoir that you filled through a rubber spout under the hatch near the liftgate hinges. The seal between the rubber fill spout and body was compromised and water was funneled in and accumulated under the carpet when it rained.

    We suspected the windshield, moonroof and door seals for a long time until this hard-to-identify leak was found. We ended up completely removing the carpet and padding. placing dry newspapers around the floor perimeter and watching for dampness. It took 30 seconds with a clear tube of silicone sealer to fix the problema nd I drove that van for 10 more years.

    At any rate, the windshield is the most likely culprit.

    What year and model car do you have? Has the windshield ever been replaced?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited November 2011
    dkg999 wrote: »
    Depending on the car, it could also be the door seals. Water can travel a long way from the leak to where you finally see it.

    I had a car and the vapor barrier (thick plastic) glued to the inside skeleton of the door behind your door panel come unglued at the very bottom of the door. It was a tiny less than 1/4-1/2 inch that let water in the front passenger area everytime it rained hard. From age the adhesive came undone. The water is supposed to drain from your window tract down through the weep holes at the bottom of the door. The vapor barrier is what keeps the draining water from entering the car or getting the back of your door panel wet.

    H9
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited November 2011
    Drenis wrote: »
    Check your drains if the seals are fine and touching the glass. Is it older then the 2006 model?

    I haven't seen anything in the seals or drain but I will look again. It is an 2000 model.
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited November 2011
    I've got a '95 Chevy Corsica. No moonroof.

    It only happens when it rains, or when there's a lot of condensation outside. I know it comes in from the front of the car because my driveway is on a slight incline, so all the water pools in the back, but I still have a very damp/wet front floor on both sides.

    As for waiting for a day without rain...I live in Oregon people. During the winter...those kinds of days don't exist. Besides, don't I have to wait for the floor to dry before I try the hose? So that I can see where any new water is coming in from?

    I'm starting to get mold growing on the floorboards, which is why I'm getting more and more worried about this.
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited November 2011
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    Do you have a moonroof? Thought it was a windshield leak but it was the moonroof.

    The moonroof in my Impala leaks if we don't use it for a long period.

    Those have drains as well and when they get clogged with dirt and debris they can be a nightmare. Many are a real PITA to clean out.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    I haven't seen anything in the seals or drain but I will look again. It is an 2000 model.

    Check those drains. ;) If I remember correctly with the 00-05 models, the water should drop into the outer area and divert to the drains. Some owners had leaks from the sun roof when drains clogged. Not necessarily AT the drain's entry either. There is more then 1 drain too.

    I owned a '03 once. There isn't anything I don't know about those Impala's. :) I still miss mine.

    Edit: Joe, head over to www.naioa.com if you haven't ever. Real nice owners there and a WEALTH of info. Anything you want to know or do to your car.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited November 2011
    I've got a '95 Chevy Corsica. No moonroof.

    It only happens when it rains, or when there's a lot of condensation outside. I know it comes in from the front of the car because my driveway is on a slight incline, so all the water pools in the back, but I still have a very damp/wet front floor on both sides.

    Definitely sounds like the drains in the fender well area or the "shelf" area on top of the fire wall between the windshield and engine bay. Many cars have rain trays or plastic diverters in that area to channel the water out. There is usually 1 or 2 drain points on either side of the car that channel the water down and out through the fender wells. If those get clogged the water backs up and seeps in over the fire wall/lower dash area and soaks the carpets.

    Where is is wet? The front part of the carpets that partially go up the fire wall? If it's damp there find your drain areas and figure away to purge them. It's usually just the very end that gets clogged especially in the fall with all the leaves and debris flying around.

    H9
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,007
    edited November 2011
    You need to stop driving around and drooling at all the hot women!
  • rebuy
    rebuy Posts: 695
    edited November 2011
    Did you buy the car from PFB?:cheesygrin:


    Agreed with the guys. A dry day and a garden hose will tell all.

    LOL really was funny.
  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    Willow wrote: »
    You need to stop driving around and drooling at all the hot women!

    You and I both know all the hot Canadian women live in Winnipeg and Montreal. :p
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,223
    edited November 2011
    Its a drain, Pull up on youtube you might find a video about it and where it might be a friend of mine had a jeep and it did the same thing and the video saved us a lot of time and hassle..
  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited November 2011
    longshot...sometimes ac condensors get clogged and leak....happened to my civic a few times abt 10 years ago
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited November 2011
    I'll definitely have to try and find these drainage areas, although I doubt my ability to do so very well.

    Anyone have some tips for removing mold?
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    Usually...not all sunroof drains exit in the rear wheel wells and behind the front fenders between the front doors and wheels.

    Hope that helps.
  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,493
    edited November 2011
    I've seen new cars that had the evaporator core housing drain plugged from the factory. Over time the water builds up in the housing and it leaks inside the car. Usually the drain is located on the firewall at the base of the housing, sometimes with a small rubber elbow on it. Some vehicle drains have a pinched rubber flap at the drain outlet to prevent insects from crawling in.

    I've seen hundreds of gallons of water poured on a car to find a leak, only to find it is the evap drain plugged/rubber flap stuck together.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited November 2011
    Pressurize the interior with a high powered shop vac, spray/pour soapy water all over the exterior.......watch for tiny bubbles coming from a "wrong" area. (This is what some local auto shops do around my area.)
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,602
    edited November 2011
    Happens when parked on an incline? Simple.....park the car in the other direction. :cheesygrin:
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  • gwg_97
    gwg_97 Posts: 332
    edited November 2011
    I had a similar problem and it only occurred when on an incline. The plastic sheet seal surrounding the speaker in the door of the car was damaged (not sticky around the edge) after I replaced the OEM speakers. Water dripped down the window into the interior of the door and then found its way through the speaker "hole" onto the floor of my car. The seal, if functioning as designed, would have normally kept the water out. It took the local "leak specialists" a couple of hours to find it. I was not pleased about my mistake. Again, it only happened if I was parked on a slope.
    
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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited November 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    Happens when parked on an incline? Simple.....park the car in the other direction. :cheesygrin:

    Lol...no, it happens no matter where the car is parked. I only mentioned the incline because it helps me see where the water is coming from. It seem to be focused on the driver side the most, but both sides get it.
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited November 2011
    Hmmm.....first thought was for you to stop pissin' in the car when your drunk....next thought, close the windows when it rains, no ?? Ok, next,drain plug, next thought, seems to be alot of water, has to be comming in just under the windshield and flowing down the inside front wall. If none of this helps, buy some good boots and a pocket fisherman, you'll be set.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,223
    edited November 2011
    What happens is the vent fills up with rain water due to the drain becoming plugged with crap (leaves dirt ect.) and over flows out the freash air vent into the car. It's not uncommon to get an inch or more of water in your car.

    We had to cut a hole into the firewall then into the drain tube then stick a piece of wire into it to unclog it, it was in a jeep as I stated above, the drain tube ran down the side if the transmission.
  • emotiva!
    emotiva! Posts: 43
    edited November 2011
    just my 2 cents, had a 2009 mustang gt that had same problem. under the plenum, (the area between the windshield and hood ) is an air intake for the heater blower motor. there is a rubber drain at very bottom very hard to see and it was full of pine needles and debris. It was flooded with water and overflowing into vehicle on both sides. I cleaned it out with a screwdriver till it drained. Problem solved. hopefully your problem is the same easy fix. yI had to remove wipers from spline and remove plenum to get to the mess.
  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,501
    edited November 2011
    Sounds like it's time to pull everything out of the interior & hit it with a hose. You'll probably need to do that in order to get the carpet dry anyway. I used to have 95 Camaro which had a water leak I couldn't track down. Turns out there was a very small crack in the skin by the B pillar which was letting water in. Never would have found it without gutting the interior.

    I rode around for several months with nothing but a dash & the drivers seat until I was sure I had found the problem. People would look into my car & be like WTF? :lol: